'Transformers: Age of Extinction' Writer Ehren Kruger: "Logical Sense Doesn't Have to Be the Be-All, End-All" - /Film He talks about working with Bay, the narrative of movies compared to AOE and the Dinobots.
"When you’re talking about aliens, robotic machines which disguise themselves as vehicles and animals, you start to make your peace with the idea that logical sense doesn’t have to be the be-all, end-all. It needs to be amazing fun for the audience. They need to be swept up, and be promised that they’re going to see things that make it worth spending money on a ticket." I'd say we got a mixed bag in that regard. But nice interview on the whole.
Yeah we need orci and kurtzman back. Now that transformers primes done they can give the film series another chance. I have a feeling they only left because they felt like there was no coming back after rotf
true but they knew how to give us a kickass starscream at least! i think it's mostly on bay truthfully...in TF1 he was coming off the first massive failure of his career in the island and had something to prove and TF1 was shot beautifully....idk if bay has lost his passion he had while younger & hungrier but he seems pretty untouchable now..i wonder how many people tell him no now compared to TF1.
Yeah It's funny how most say they were bad writers but then say movie 1 is still the best of all the movies. They obviously were not that bad then if most people still think movie 1 was the best.
its scary actually...the hype for TF2 was unlike anything ive seen in modern cinema..it was there...TF1 was surprisingly amazing..and not just for fans of the lore but for general audiences as well..which was the surprising part...and 2...2 kinda happened and it hasn't recovered since..this could be the best 1 since part 1 though..which i guess is an improvement..but 2, 3, & 4 cant touch 1 for me.
ya but that director made tf1 what it was...idk who else opens with blackout as the first transformation. but sadly there is criticism to be had...transformers COULD have been an all-time trilogy but 2 & 3 missed the mark set by the original what changed from tf1 to the rest? the writers...and bay's power/influence...not a good combo apparently.
My friends always tell me " there's now way a transformers film can be good because its not realistic" and I always reply with "was avengers realistic?" No, but it was an amazing movie, because it had a great writer/director. A transformers film could be critically acclaimed and have a good story, don't know if it will but it can. Unfortunately hasbro/ paramounts 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th considerations are toys and money.
John Rogers wrote "Prime Directive", which in my book is movie 1. Orci & Kurtzman put their name on his script, changed a few names, few details, and dialogue, but the heavy lifting was done by J. R. Bring him back, if he's interested. My (edit: I liked AOE, and DOTM, Ehren can stay on board for all I care -- in fact, he seems to be more in tune with the lore than John Rogers was, and I prefer that actually . . . rather than having a whole new mythology, it might be more interesting to have Kruger explore some old cartoon/comics stuff).
Definitely worse. At least Kruger is clearly a fan and knows a lot about the series and its mythology (even if he isn't too great of a writer). Orci & Kurtzman are the most hit & miss film writers I've ever seen (with more misses than hits, in my opinion). They wrote Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Star Trek Into Darkness, which I thought were definitely more boring and difficult to follow than Transformers: Age of Extinction. I also tend to blame them (perhaps wrongfully, but I don't care) for a lot of the choices that Transformers: Prime made that I didn't agree with, and how the show became completely disappointing later on. While I immensely enjoyed AOE, if they wanted to reboot the franchise, in a bid to keep up with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they should've changed the director and the writer. A Peter Berg directed TF movie, with Simon Furman as, at least, a story/creative consultant would've been outstanding, in my opinion.
It doesn't matter who's a fan or not. If they can't do anything good with the material then it's moot.
