I'll never understand how people can say the Bayverse TF designs are BAD.

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  1. pilot00

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    I know its an oximoron, but this is more humanoid than you believe. By virtue of its 'alienification' be so forced it makes no real sense in anything. And no its proportions are completely wrong. For a robotic life form that needs to be effiecient in both its forms to achieve its primary tasks (war and construction in this instance) it completely fails 50%. And it has been done so forcefully, to look alien by some percieved (wrongly) human way of thinking that all aliens have to look completely bizare.
     
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    Except that's not a proper answer; you haven't explained anything.

    How can Starscream be the same height as Autobots he should, logically, dwarf? Again, with a fighter jet alt mode, he would make be amongst the largest everyday Transformers and would tower over pretty much all the Autobots. What's the explanation for that?

    How can Shockwave talk without a discernible mouth? And if mouths aren't needed, why is Shockwave the only character without a mouth or mouth-like structure?

    If Travis Knight is staying on, he, or whoever replaces him, should find some way to explain those facts or change the designs to account for them.
     
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    hthrun Show accuracy's overrated

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    But not ALL the Transformers looked completely bizarre.
    Starscream's transformation was probably like that of the cube which folded into itself until it fit in Bumblebee's hand.
    There may have been more Transformers without mouths that just weren't in the movie. Or shockwave may have been unique with a speaker instead of a mouth. There were many other design elements that were unique to certain Transformers.
     
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    Examples?
     
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    It's hard to call a visual art objectively ugly, but if most people agree that it's ugly, what's your problem? Are you that surprised to have a unique opinion?
     
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  6. hthrun

    hthrun Show accuracy's overrated

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    Movie bee face looks like terrifying if you have no context on who bumblebee is.

    It's a human head with the flesh/outer skin melted off and underneath it is a horrifying looking robot skull face. freaky eyes and s and m mouth. o_O 

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    "Give me your face!!!" "No seriously, I need a face." o_O :p 
     
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    Yeah, forget the G1 ness, but the new design softened things up. We get more solid shapes, body movement is more recognizable, he's also more expressive, on objective design metrics in terms of conveying a message in design to the audience, I think he's just better.
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    He’s actually one of the better Bay Autobot faces out there IMO. If he’s desperate he could always murder one of his Autobots friends and take their faces. The problem is... his choices aren’t very good:
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    These two morons?
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    Whatever this is?
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    This disgraceful adaptation of G1 Arcee?
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    Mr. Not-Albert Einstein?

    Yeah... I would stay away from them if I were him
     
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    I dont agree with any of this sorry.

    EDIT: Exception: Soundwaave and Perhaps Jazz.
     
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    That unholy offspring of Waspinator and a bag of cool ranch Doritos is no Starscream. #hateme
     
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    I’m going to twist your limbs off with my bare hands.
     
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    That is why I prefer figures with his battle mask on or at least the ability to put it on. I hate looking at that... THING! Why did you even post a picture of it?
     
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    The power of Ghost Starscream protects me.
     
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    DOTM Bumblebee I must be some kind of nut...

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    I never got the whole "skull face" comparison. It's an attempt at portraying a rounder, friendlier face (with a gas mask) in the jagged, "made of 1,000 parts minimum" Bayverse aesthetic. Maybe it's because I grew up with Bayverse Bumblebee, but his face is way less terrifying to me than literally any other Transformer from the films, and some of the artwork from the G1 Marvel comic.

    The rebooted Bumblebee face is way better, though.
     
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    You do know not everything is perfect and there is a thing called "mass shifting" Also using G1 as your defence isn't a good idea sense it was an 80s Saturday morning cartoon.

    And the mouth complaint makes no actual sense like what?
     
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    Better how? It's the same freaking face.

    And the skull face thing I think you're taking a bit too literally. It's because it looks like we're looking at his internal head mechanics rather than something that actually resembles a face not that it literally looks like a skull.
     
  18. hthrun

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    Don't be sorry, we all have our onions. I even like the more monstrous looking designs like the dreads and Constructicons.
     
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    I honestly never had a problem with most of the bay designs. I liked most of the designs until AOE when they went completely overboard with the complexity of the robot designs. I mean seriously it doesn’t even look like Optimus can transform into a truck anymore. And where does drift store all the helicopter kibble in his robot mode? Like you can only see the car parts like copter never existed. Im glad dropkick got this done right. Most autobot designs are alright but I dislike how they made most of the deceptions literal monsters starting at DOTM to the point they felt like a completely different race compared to the autobots. the first movie honestly did the decepticons the best. They still had normal humanoid designs while still looking opposing like blackout and barricade. I can see how people can find the designs really unappealing and I can see what they mean. But personally they never bothered me.
     
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    They're not bad, they're just random and confused.