Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Pando, Mar 18, 2020.
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More screen time for soundwave
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As a loose sequel to Transformers Prime, I would say the show should've done better in distancing itself from Prime, rather than try to integrate some of its plot points into the story (Soundwave's 2nd return). A larger focus on the corrupt Cybertron, less niche development for some characters, and less repaint spam. Show itself is perfectly average, just needs a minor boost to be super good.
Bring back Shockwave, and a bigger role for Hank.
Spend more time developing Decepticon Island. Give Glowstrike more screentime and development.
Have the Autobot High Council show up earlier than the series finale.
Rid 2015 was a disappointment.
I thought it would be awesome. The plot seemed different and unique, Prime and Megatron were finally not the focus(in Megs case he wasn't even there), and more characters could be introduced. I had a good feeling that this show would be great.
The first episode was good, to me. It sets things up rather nicely, and I was excited to see where the show would go next.
I haven't even bothered finishing the first season.
The show is repetitive, and dull. The character development stinks. One episode would have Strong arm and Sideswipe arguing and then learning the value of teamwork. Another episode would have Strong arm and Sideswipe arguing and then learning to be cooperative. It's also extremely formulaic for the most part. New deception arrives, Bee and Co catches it. Learnt lesson, happy ending.
Of course, not everything was bad. Steel jaw was actually rather menacing. I liked the designs(except for the neck of Bee). I heard the Starscream arc was great. The humans weren't annoying.
Other than that, it just squandered its potential. What could have been a massive hit became another lazy, generic show.
How would I change it?
Try keeping every episode fresh. Make character actually develop THROUGHOUT the series, instead of just in an episode. Try using key plot points, like the fact that there is a corrupt Cybertron Council, instead of just revealing that AT THE FINALE.
And fix the repainting of character models. That just sucks.
What I would've done is not use the "Decepticon of the Week" formula. I mean maybe occasionally here or there feature one. But for the most part I would've had Steeljaw and his pack of 5-6 Decepticons as the regular adversaries,working as a team.
I'm not sure I'd change much, since from the start it was just an overall generic TF cartoon. But if there was something I'd change, god please change that show's framerate. I hate it when some shows limit their 3D framerate to 10 frames to look like a cartoon, but instead it just comes out as a choppy mess like that Machinima combiners war show.
I would stop after the first season. I actually really liked the first season. Arguably more than Prime. It had a unique premise and was kind of out-of-the-box. People hate on it now, but at the time people seemed pretty into it. I feel like the following seasons gave it the 'generic' label it now has. Eventually the villain of the week formula stopped being fun (and they used too many recycled designs), and it started relying more on fanservice (like bringing back Starscream and Soundwave). And more gimmicks, like the Combiners. It wasn't awful, but it lost it's newness after Season One. I've only seen each season once. I saw Season One half-a-decade ago, and I could probably describe a fair potion of it. I saw the following seasons more recently and couldn't tell you most of what happened in them.
I loved the first season, but it felt like they wanted to end the story there and so seasons 2 and 3 felt like an afterthought, remaining repetative and stale. The characters never grew. They would learn something new and grow in one episode, but revert back to their old ways and re-learn the same lesson over and over in other episodes.
The way I would do it?
Keep season 1's premise where Bee's team is on Earth hunting down Decepticon escapees, including some of Cybertron's most dangerous foes. Magmatron and Steeljaw serving as the majn antagonist, though Steeljaw eventually becomes more of a sympathetic anti-hero as the series progresses. Humanity discovers about the existance of the Transformers because of the global Decepticon attacks. In the season finale, after defeating a major Decepticon threat, a beacon is sent by Bumblebee to Cybertron for help.
In season 2, many Autobot teams arrive on Earth to help. Some were part of team Prime from the previous show, others are new, but they were all supporters of Optimus. Optimus does return, but not to defeat the Fallen who is not in the show, but to begin a resistance on Cybertron against the new High Council. Megatron and Predaking return to help Optimus. It would eventually be revealed that the Council caused the Alchamore to crash on Earth as a diversion that would lead Cybertron's elite Autobot warriors into a death trap while the Council, led by Cyclonus, led Cybertron into a Devepticon-led empire. Season finale sees Steeljaw, who only ever really wanted a home free of prejudice, join the Autobots in defeating Magmatron once and for all.
Season 3 would see Bumblebee, Steeljaw and his pack, and the other Autobots return to Cybertron only to find it a Decepticon dystopia ala Beast Machines where the population has been overrun with mindless drones who have enslaved and imprisoned both Autobots and Decepticons unwilling to bow to the new Council's will. Its up to Bumblebee, Optimus, Megatron, Predaking, Steeljaw, and their forces to help defeat the new Council and finally unify all of Cybertron once and for all to prevent history from repeating itself.
There, a more interesting version of what Hasbro ruined and tried to rush into a few episodes at the end after 2 seasons of filler.
I’d start by not making the show cel shaded for one thing.
Oh and not make everything feel so slow and bland with your typical “Decepticon of the Week” episode. More story as well. Have Optimus stay dead and serve as an actual legendary figure head and a spiritual guide.
Not make every episode the same thing and adapt the comic
Ditch the two-bit furries they call "villains" and actually allow for meaningful character development.
One of my faves its not perfect but the more nitpicking I'd do the less it would even BE RID15 anymore.
Its a totally unique animal of a show. So if I could change one thing I'd say MORE STEELJAW.
If I could change RID the plot would be A LOT Different.
Grimlock (The one from FOC instead of the not funny one from the original)
Sideswipe (again, from FOC)
Drift (IDW Accurate robot mode and colors, same car mode)
Neutral Cybertronians (Autobots from across the franchise as well as the Aligned continuity itself)
Bumblebee and a few Autobots find themselves On Earth, where the Decepticons, lead by Starscream attempt to rebuild the Decepticon empire.
Plot: Bumblebee's team on Earth must stop The Fallen from using a Star harvester to make energon from Earth's sun, but they can't do it without some help.
Plot: Cybertronian Prisoners the Stunticons escaped prison and came to Earth to defeat The Aerialbots (they thought they were on earth). The Autobots On Earth Must Defend Earth, but not without Superion.
Final season: Season 4
Plot: It is revealed that the new council On Cybertron is run By Unicrons Minions
And the Autobots must stop them before it's too late.
denny clay would be killed in episode one leading to bumblebee having a smaller neck
What I Would Keep:
Grimlock as a Decepticon (interesting concept, but execution could be better)
Animal-motif Decepticons (backstory would give explanation as to how they have animalistic Robot Modes; more on that later)
What I Would Change:
Art direction now done by Dave Guertin and Greg Baldwin (CreatureBox)
Series now set in space, exploring new worlds and cultures, and facing new enemies who either ally with Decepticons or are against Transformers in general (e.g. Quintessons)
Main cast doesn't like and/or trust each other at first but bounce off each other from time to time, learn from one another, put aside their differences, and grow into a tightknit team
Replace Bee with Hot Rod as leader; a brash, arrogant, thrill-seeking young cop who gradually grows and develops into a natural leader thanks to his experiences and friendships he made
Kup is Hot Rod's 2nd-in-command; starts off as his newly-assigned partner who's seen-it-all and lived to tell the tale(s); is distrustful of Grimlock and Swindle at first but slowly grows to trust and respect them
Grimlock is the muscle; closer to his FOC counterpart personality-wise; a ruthless war criminal who hates authority, be they Decepticon or Autobot; was experimented on by Shockwave to create the ultimate warrior; learns to be at peace with himself and become a better teammate
Replace Fixit with Swindle as the medic; a smooth-talking, street hustler with a collection of spare parts and weapons who reluctantly becomes the team's medic
Animal-motif Decepticon origins explain that Shockwave had been experimenting on them prior to Grimlock as punishment for those who failed tasks or attempted to betray/flee the cause; Shockwave used CNA samples of Cybertron's own fauna to alter said Decepticons' genetic code
Animal-motif Decepticons are (unintentionally) interfering with Cyclonus' plans to coerce other planets into giving up their resources when they fled to said planets; they either work alone or are in different packs
Quintessons are the true main antagonists, planning to take back a now-weaponized Cybertron (thanks to Cyclonus' efforts to drain planets of their resources) and claim the universe as their own; Cyclonus was working for them post-war, mostly for his own gain
Optimus stays dead
EDIT: Forgot to add in that the main cast would eventually be branded as traitors after Cyclonus' High Council discovers they're harbouring war criminals (Grimlock and Swindle)
mostly more budgeting of eps and cutting some of the one off cons for more buildup/payoff for the major villains; megatronus, the council, decepticon island.
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