Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by AzT, Apr 30, 2018.
I'm cautiously optimistic by the news of Barber's return/promotion to this position. Let's face it, the quality of stories started to slip when Barber stepped away from said position. Anyone can look at the comichron numbers and see the drop after he left. Granted, it wasn't a significant drop but there was a drop.
I'd be happy with a leap back to the realm of 10,000 books being sold a month (Something I think will happen with Barber back in the driver's seat). Oh, and the floppy sales are still the best metric for judging how a book performs (Anyone who says they don't are dead wrong, and I question the intelligence of anyone who says the comichron numbers don't count). A book isn't selling 20,000 copies and getting cancelled. Once a book drops to around 5000 or less on the comichron chart a book is typically cancelled.
I didn't really like the RiD-Transformers-Optimus run all that much. It felt bland and wasn't very interesting to me, both character and story wise... I didn't know he was an editor in the early IDW days, but I remember them being fairly run of the mill as well. You guys seem very impressed by him. I don't think I know enough to have a solid or serious opinion on it. Either way, the comics have been stale lately, so some change would be good.
As usual, I'm not joining in on the circle jerk or any hatey mc hater speeches and... as usual, with all speculative crap, time will tell! Hopefully it will be another golden age as most of you are speculating.
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FWIW, I think a lot of the folks who are thrilled by this news agree that he was a better editor than a writer.
Which "early IDW days" do you mean? He was editor at the start of the MTMTE/RiD era, not the Furman -Ations at the very beginning.
I mean, I think he's written some of the best Transformers comics and that his writing saw a huge jump in quality when he left editing, but I ALSO think he's a good editor. Not sure if I feel he's better at one or the other since they are not easily comparable.
And I admit, I think a lot of our assumptions of Barber’s editing come from the differences in James Roberts’ writing while Barber was editing him.
Yup. It does seem that way doesn't it? I see that. And it's definitely worth something. I'll take fan opinions who are knowledgeable on the comics over my own comic opinions any day. Personally, I haven't found the comics interesting enough to care about any of that stuff, though. So, here's hoping the fans end up right about it and we get some good comics, and maybe I'll start caring enough to be a real fan again.
I don't know anything about the making of these comics. They can barely hold my attention, so there is no point in me being specific. That's why I have no opinion, but rather hopes for the series. Hopefully it pans out to be a good move. I'm sure that my very neutral thinking on the subject didn't ruin it for anyone whose running around screaming profanities (like I like to do on occasion) or for anyone who is running around putting lipstick on, ready for a date with the new editor. (...I'm using exaggerated humor, realistically, I don't actually perceive any one in this way...)
Just my personal opinion, Barber was a very sub-par writer with juvenile, uminteresting dialogue and poor creative choices. Being a Transformers fan, I read the comics, but I never got giddy about them as I have with Roberts' MTMTE/LL comics.
With Barber's writing, I often found myself rolling my eyes, or having to push myself through the rest of a terrible comic. I actually dreaded reading his books. As it stands, I only read Barber's comics just to keep up with the same continuity as Lost Light.
This, is me exactly... Although, I also lost the lost light recently. Interest waning. Sadly.
The more I read these posts the more I'm realizing Barber didn't earn the EIC job. He was the only one left who would do it.
I've found Barber to be a passable writer (who gets blown out of the water by Scott & Roberts) who mangles dialogue and misuses characters. (After 12 years of barely mentioning Sunstreaker & Sideswipe are brothers, we get Tracks & Needlenose?!?)
That said, when he plays the long game, he's actually rather impressive. (Tarantulas is Springer's father, Prowl is a master manipulator, Optimus steps down from leadership, etc.)
So I'd love to see him come up with long term story arcs, then promote the right writers to tell the story, pick the characters, write the dialogue.
Now, the only issue is, we're starting this new world order during a brand relaunch. So I'm wondering just what I'm in for?
It would be nice to bring out a special regarding the \"Battle of Hell\'s Point\"
This was one of the most legendary battles between decepticons and autobots.
Would be nice to have a special or one shot about tjis great battle.
That had nothing to do with Ryall's leaving. And there was no going behind Hasbro's back on that. Both are still in good standing with Hasbro.
It was a mess period that's more complicated than anyone wants to really talk about honestly. But a large chunk of it was on "fans" overreacting to begin with to a new character that was actually really cool(and shouldn't have been an issue since they got their classic version updated figure), and other areas sticking their nose in where it didn't belong. So these "fan" theories about it aren't true and are all pretty off base conjecture. And it got blown of proportion from there.
The person who came up with the actual character change still works with Hasbro. The only thing on the creative side that was slightly bothersome, was that the problem areas were directly antagonized by the writer and tbh, he wasn't exactly completely wrong and honestly those areas should have been antagonized a bit for such a silly complaint they blew out of proportion for a different universe character, but maybe with some better explanations of the thought process on the "MANDATED character change".
So please stop spreading that fake gossip/lies. It's tiring.
Barber was set to get this promotion because Ryall was leaving and had been prepping for this even before that.
Sorry, I'm totally confused because this whole conversation happened ten years ago ...what are you talking about? What "actual character change" are you talking about?
Appreciate your passion there broski, but perhaps another way to help "stop spreading fake whatever" is to not drag up a dead thread to reply to stuff said four months back if not more? =)
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