Unicron isn't in that, either

 

Gee, I wonder why so many fans aren't shedding any tears for IDW.

 

Yeah, I thought that sentiment had died down. It's ridiculous to want Disney to own literally everything, and it's ridiculous that they have as much as they do now.

 

I admit I was kinda sleeping on most of the IDW2 era of Transformers comics. Probably because of the slow pacing and the telling without showing. (Plus, the whole "palm on palm" thing a lot of them did made me think "okay, why?")

That said, I did like what they did with the Technobots and Dai Atlas (way better than IDW1) and I liked the Galaxies story on Ultra Magnus enough to try and write up a screenplay for it.

I'm still kinda skeptical about Hasbro and IDW parting ways, but if it’s one of those "can’t fight fate" moments in life, and BOOM! Studios does end up taking over, then I hope for the best. (Maybe we'll finally get that Transformers/Justice League crossover that we never got since Power Rangers teamed up with the League a while back.)

 

I meant RiD. I got the two mixed up since MTMTE eventually rebranded into LL.

 

If this is true, I hope that the next publisher can get Milne, Roche, and Guidi to do the art. It would be such a shame to not have those guys ever draw transformers comics again.

 

Hasbro absolutely needs to get its house in order when it comes to media tie ins. The quality sheer visual, voice acting and storytelling of Masters of the Universe: Revelation and Star Trek: Prodigy make a mockery of the WFC Trilogy.

The problem is Rooster Teeth and F. J. DeSanto. THey keep going back to these low rent clowns for some reason. The animation quality of the series is just not acceptable for 2019/2020/2021. The dialog is sub-fanfic level. And the Voice Acting is so uniformly atrocious that previous TF VOAs criticized it.

What's particularly insane is that Transformers Prime for 10 years ago still has the best animation and excellent voice acting, but when the people who made that, Polygon, were brought aboard for WFC:Trilogy to assist, it made no difference. That's how thoroughly bad the F.J. DeSanto / Rooster Teeth Product is. And it really sucks watching these o ther series and think "why can't we get a series like this". Because a "Transformers Generation 1 - Revelation" 2D semi-sequel to G1 is a slam dank that could have happened, or if not that, the WFC shows we got, animated to the level of Star Trek: Prodigy.

Especially since it looks like movies are going to be the destination for Marvel movies and just Marvel movies before too long, it's more important than ever for Hasbro to get their properties well positioned on me streaming (and other forms of media, including video games and comic books). After no new non-mobile TF game since Devastation, and no AAA TF game since Fall of Cybertron, Hasbro did take a modest step forward this year with their announcements, but the even there, the drought is very noticable.

 

Oooof hard disagree. Personally I'm so sick of the weird plots, weird collection of character and extremely off-characterization that I'm counting the days for a squadron of Nimrods to land on the latest mutant island to pose a threat to the world, and kill everyone on it. Hickman was too successful in trying to make the X-Men and mutants "the strangest heroes of all" again. He made them strange and unrelatable to the point of making Orchis look heroic (but that's Hickman's long term criticism he's aware of - that he writes villains much more compelling than heroes).

If you ask me, there is one evergreen mold of X-Men it needs to go back to and just jettison every crappy experiment since Grant Morrison left: a Blue Team and a Gold team operating out of the X-Mansion in Westchester, fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them from evil mutants.

What's most offensive to the idea of the X-Men over the last 15 years, mostly on the part of far lesser quality than Hickman (who is one of my favorite comic writers) who were trusted with the franchise is the emergence of mutant nationalism. For decades that was Magneto's idea (Asteroid M, Avalon, Genosha) and it existed in contrast to Professor X's vision of mutant integration into society... mutants as part of the world. But in the past 15 years we've had two stinkin' islands - Utopia (really a floating Asteroid M) and Krakoa - that the X-Men have set up as a mutant nation apart from humanity. Out goes peaceful co-existence, in comes an early 20th century Wilsonian viewpoint of a "a homeland for every race and peoples".

If you really want to get into the thick of it, it actually nukes the allegory aspect of the X-Men. Mutants and prejudice against them were an allegory for racism and in various forms, it was explored and written about for decades. But these repeated mutant islands, dreamed up by exclusively white comic book writers mind you, seem to think the true dream of minority peoples (of which I am one fwiw) is an independent homeland rather than equal rights, equal respect and equal opportunity under the law.

So bring on Nimrod and have her send Moira-X back to the grave. That way we can reset the timeline to some point in the early 2000s and wash away the sheer awfulness of Utopia and Krakoa. Because Wolverine did have it right back when he restarted the school (Wolverine and the X-Men is a fantastic book: the X-Men never should have left Westchester.

I think there is a feeling that bad comics are worse than any comics. If the next round of TF comics is going to be like IDW2, frankly I'd rather TF comics go on a prolonged hiatus.

 

"Why does Hasbro keep using a low cost animation studio?" I mean ... why do you think

 

Oh yeah obviously the reason is they're dirt cheap. I'm saying they should stop it with the cheap shit. WFC was slightly better than the shovelware that was unwatchable Prime Wars Trilogy, but even that had the benefit of better voice acting than WFC.

It's really a "do it right or not at all" scenario as I see it. Just by comparison, it makes Hasbro IP's look cheap.

 

Honestly as much as bitch and complain about the current run. I don’t think I’m really ready for idw, to lose transformers. Mainly cause idw has done great work and has had it the longest. On top of that most comics that get dropped and moved to another company. Usually start all over and might be even worse. Look first hasbro got to get their collective shit in order. Same for idw, the shipping problem is a huge problem but we have the pandemic to blame for that. The main stories need to pick up the pace. The side stories are great but it’s not enough. They need to change out the main artist and writers. Do something about the characters because the way are not they are is not quite working. Maybe do another big crossover story with mlp, sonic, tmnt or whatever. Hell maybe do another project with better animation and VA’s featuring a story from the current or previous run like shattered glass or the wreckers . But until an actual confirmation, I hope rumors will not be true and maybe be the necessary boot up idw ass to do better.

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think this is a terrible read on the X-Men. If you can't find an X-Men story you like since Morrison -- though it's still the high point for the franchise -- you're not trying hard enough.

I hear you on how the allegories of prejudice and supremacy break down in the current books, and it's one I've been turning over, and don't think I can go justice to here. I will say that I think that applying the real-world inspirations too closely to fictional dynamics harms understanding the real world and the fictional ones, like when some fans try to defend Megatron's actions using human history and rhetoric that aren't really applicable. Dawn of X is still very much in progress, so we don't know how the story will conclude or what lessons we can learn -- though I certainly hope it's not validating mutant genocide.

Incidentally not all of the X books in the post-Hickman period have had white writers, though I grant your premise that the writing staff should represent a more diverse pool of experiences.

 

I hope you’re joking. Although making Optimus a female is probably something modern Marvel and DC would do because as J.R.R Tolkien put it, “Evil cannot create, only corrupt.”

 

Yeah WFC, Cyberverse etc could have all been better.

cheap animation, limited no. of eps, limited running time, cheap direction = Frosting on CHEAP SHIT CAKE!

 

Honestly I love IDW Transformers the most out of any continuity so far, but said continuity I love also ended nearly 5 years ago, and even though I'm enjoying the current run of IDW I wouldn't really lose much sleep over the story unfortunately being cut short like with Dreamwave and the stuff they had hinted/teased for later. So kind of indifferent if they do lose it or not.

I hate the fact that they're using the toy designs tho instead of letting the artists make their own like IDW1 did. Freaking hate that especially if they're Earth toys so it either makes no sense or they never transform.

 

No idea where you got the idea people complain about fembots, but alright. If you’re talking about people disliking IDW’s Windblade it’s because she’s a bad character, people would still complain about her even if she was male.

Also, there’s nothing wrong with diversity. But it becomes a problem when writers use diversity as a crutch to get away with their unimaginative writing. I would use Marvel and DC as examples, but many before me have already done so.

 

The only reason why IDW is hated as much as it is, is because of people like that who go out of their way to antagonize others for disagreeing with them. Aside from the last part of the series going to pot, IDW1 really was fine.

 

I'd like to see them take a years toys and tell a year's worth of stories with them. I love using the current toy designs, they just need to do it in a way that makes sense.

 

Preach, brother!

I don't know if you ever saw the new She-Ra on Netflix, but for those who stuck it out to the end, it was absolutely amazing. The characters were dynamic and fun. The plot lines were epic. The voice acting and animation was flawless.

What's more, is that it ran for 5 full seasons (over 2 years) and wasn't even supporting a toyline! The show existed for the sole purpose of entertainment, not to sell toys, and was a huge success. This is where Hasbro is missing the boat. Focus on making a great show first and the toy sales will come.

 

I was never a fan of IDW "making their own designs" (mostly because I don't really care to see designs I can't own in toy form, and this IS a toy franchise), but I also agree that using toy designs where they don't make a lick of sense isn't helpful, either.