I have given up defending this movie

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by fake, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. fake

    fake Return to Innocence

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    I loved the movie, so did my wife and both kids. I am the only TF fan in the family. Anyway my friends ask me how the movie was and I tell them its great.

    One of them goes and sees it and curses me. Then others just say I am a bad judge of movies since the movie got slammed everywhere.

    So I have decided not to recommend/defend this movie any more. I liked it, and if you feel like watching/spending your money go for it...

    Rant out
     
  2. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout The Undefeated of the East

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    Cool story, bro.
     
  3. Thenames9

    Thenames9 D-d-d-d-duel!

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    And you want to share this with us because...? Don't take things so personally then if they don't like it and you won't feel this way.
     
  4. PcPrime23

    PcPrime23 501st Legion Trooper

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    Um ok?
     
  5. Rumblestorm

    Rumblestorm Well-Known Member

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    Same.
    It's either love it, meh, or over-the-top hatred.
     
  6. Deathpool

    Deathpool EREDEAN WINCHAEGER

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    Yep. A lot of people like to bandwagon. This happened to me a few times.
    This is a real life conversation I had with a friend about Godzilla
    Me: How was the movie? (I hadn't seen it yet)
    Him: I didn't like it
    Me: Why?
    Him: it had a bad story
    Me: How was it bad?
    Him: The story sucked.
    Me: But how?
    Him: It just did.
    Same goes for Transformers. I feel like a lot (not everybody, a lot) of people say "that movie sucked dick, fuck you Bay" but when asked what sucked about it they just flounder around and say "because... uh... the story was bad!"
     
  7. autobot slapper

    autobot slapper Banned

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    At the end of the day, if you liked it then that's all what matters.
     
  8. Smashs

    Smashs Internet: Pure Truth Moderator

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    Yup.
     
  9. harrismonkey

    harrismonkey Well-Known Member

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    This is true.

    I think the movie was kind of terrible (like all of them), but this time lacked the great fights that previously made it all worthwhile (for me).

    Although, even as I say this, I think I'll end up buying this one as well. (obviously I'm conflicted)

    But none the less, if you liked it that's really all that matters.
     
  10. adamid4

    adamid4 Well-Known Member

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    This. I loved the movie. People also go the other way, "like it was good", "why?" "story" "what about the story?", "Just the story"

     
  11. Digilaut

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    You don't need to defend a movie.

    I think it's fun to discuss movies, and what they did right and wrong, but bear in mind fun =/= quality.

    OP, you're saying you're the only TF fan in the family. Any chance you're looking/finding something in these movies non-fans don't necessarily want/need?

    For example: I'm really glad the Transformers got much better characterization in AoE, but I know that people who are not Transformers fans might not even care the slightest about that improvement, and instead take issues with the completely off pacing in the final act of the movie.

    You're right, there are definitely people who do the bandwagoning thing, because it's hip. On the other hand, let's be honest here: the Michael Bay Transformers movies are not exactly top quality movies. Fun? YES. Hell yes - and nobody should ever have to be ashamed for liking them (or anything), but critism like 'the story was bad' (or what people often mean with this: the plot and plot structure :)  ) is pretty valid.
     
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  12. LegendAntihero

    LegendAntihero Banned

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    About time someone realized a Bay movie sucks
     
  13. harrismonkey

    harrismonkey Well-Known Member

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    Probably this. Characterization for the bots was absolutely the best it's been. None the less if you compare it to any movie outside the Transformers series it's still less than it ought to be. That's what the average non fan will take away.



    If you compare it to Planet of the Apes (an absolutely ridiculous comparison btw), in that film the cg characters had more powerful, involving character development than the humans did. It can be done (just not by Bay). On a loosely related point, after seeing Apes Matt Reeves would now be my top choice to replace Bay. :D 
     
  14. Deathpool

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    everybody knows that. it is by no way a good movie. but I liked it because
    1. Biased tf fan
    2. Had fun watching it
    3. Better than the last two
     
  15. Digilaut

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    Yup, totally agree with these :thumb 

    This is probably also why there's a huge gap between critics and fans with this movie, or for a catchy phrase: why this is both the BEST and the WORST Michael Bay Transformers movie.

    Why the BEST? Because it's genuinely improving on a lot of things that were off with the previous ones, like the toned down humor and the robot characterization.

    Why the WORST? Because the movie is still missing a lot of beats, and the minor improvements we fans like don't really matter to non-fans / critics. To them, AoE still feels the same, thus standing still - which for a fourth movie feels more like a decline.


    I bet this movie would have been seen in a slightly more positive light if it had been the second one, rather than the fourth. :) 
     
  16. Ironhide1234

    Ironhide1234 Here.

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    Meh, If you declare yourself a true TF fan and love TF then you love the movies, simple.

    Haters? Feed 'em rice.
     
  17. kraven

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    This.

    I've seen quite a few people mention how they were going to the movie expecting not to like it or saying they are going but if it sucks they'll be back here with some harsh things to say. It's almost as if they want to dislike the movie just so they can come back here and join in the conversations all the cool kids are having about why this movie sucked. I even know someone like this in real life, he said he went to the dark knight and iron man wanting to find things wrong with it because they were so popular. I don't understand it but people love to hate awesome things. My brothers girlfriend is also like this and the best thing to do is walk away shut these fucking downer people out and enjoy the things in life that you love. Nothing will change these people. Nothing. They revel in their negativity.
     
  18. smkspy

    smkspy Remember true fans

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    /every movie ever.

    We just need to stop taking the opinions of others as if it's a personal attack against us.
     
  19. Barricade24

    Barricade24 The Decepticop

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    :thumb 
     
  20. Deathpool

    Deathpool EREDEAN WINCHAEGER

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    sounds like a dick