Human Military??? (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by excelhedge, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. excelhedge

    excelhedge Overseer of Weird

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    Remind me Why the Human Military doesn't get involed, if Fowler can outfly and Shoot Down several Vehicons? Granted they weren't focusing on him and aiming mostly at the base, but imagine Air Defense Command could have made it in time.
     
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    Because, we don't want it to become like that again.
     
  3. ChaosDonkey

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    Fowler kicked ***, because Vehicons and Insecticons are there to make it all more bay like
     
  4. The Swordsman

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    I'll find it weird if no one on Earth notices the giant villain fortress of doom that looks like something from the works of JRR Tolkien that has suddenly appeared in the Nevada Desert, especially the US military. I didn't like how season 2 had no mention of the natural disasters that occured while Unicron was awakening in One Shall Rise, so I'll find it strange if the military doesn't even acknowledge New Kaon, let alone launch an attack on it. Ernie Hudson flying a helicopter and shooting down a swarm of giant rhino beetles doesn't count, even though it's awesome.
     
  5. ChaosDonkey

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    I think that the military was busy evacuating the population of Jasper.
    Fowler mentioned something about it
     
  6. Bladewind

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    My guess is that there'll be a small time skip for between Darkest Hour and the first episode of Beast Hunters for there to have been an unsuccessful military strike on New Kaon.

    They've probably got their hands somewhat tied about avoiding onscreen human deaths and want to avoid the Bayverse route of glorifying the US military to the point that the Autobot presence seems unnecessary.
     
  7. Ash from Carolina

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    I think the biggest reason we haven't seen much of the human military is that we might get movie nods with the look of Prime and Bumblebee the creative team has worked hard to make sure that Transformers Prime didn't come off as a clone of the live action films. Perhaps the Transformers Prime didn't want to deal with the movie complaint of if the human military can kick the Decepticons metal butts then why do we need the Autobots?

    Until now the Autobots and Decepticons have managed to pull off a shadow war thanks to the efforts of Agent Fowler. The time we did see the human military vs the Decepticons the Decepticons were kicking the human's butts. Which might be why Prime doesn't want the humans fighting because he doesn't want the humans to get slaughtered.

    Of course New Kaon throws a huge money wrench into the shadow war concept. Will the humans try to attack New Kaon? Will they try to set up a perimeter around New Kaon? What about the civilian population finding out since it's kind of hard to hide New Kaon like you would a secret Autobot base?

    While Agent Fowler puts up a good fight against the Decepticons I don't expect to see humans stomping the Decepticons in season 3. The creative team said the Autobots are going to be in a bad spot in season 3 so I don't think the military is coming to their rescue.
     
  8. General Magnus

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    Probably because the military wants to give the Autobots the chance to do it before flying in the nukes.
     
  9. Soundwaver5000

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    I think it's quite annoying when the deceptions can take out a super advanced flying machine (jackhammer) but they can't take out fowlers helicopter shooting metal bullets. Made by humans, when their technology is hundreds of year superior to theirs. And why if flower is kind of the autobots supervisor,does he fly the vehicles himself
     
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  10. soundwave142

    soundwave142 Decepticon over-seer

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    because there is only one fowler, and he's the only human allowed to kill cons
     
  11. Transformed

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    Agent Fowler isn't the Autobots' supervisor, he's their liaison with the US government, their go-between.

    I assume they chalk Agent Fowler's mastery of flight (jets and helicopters) dog fight skills to his Special Forces days which they've already established as being on par with Bulkheads, as ridiculous as that sounds--it's a kids show. If my kid isn't asking why Agent Fowler can go toe-to-toe with these guys, I don't think we should either.
     
  12. Soundwaver5000

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    I understand where your coming from. But like I said, it only annoyed me. It's not a problem that would keep me from watching the show
     
  13. Phantom6

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    If Fowler expected to be facing off against the cons he was probably packing depleted Uranium.


    That **** shreds armor.
     
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    Well, Agent Fowler did state that the Armed Force was ready to go to DEFCON 1, maximum readiness. As Agent Fowler is an alien's race liason to the US government, not to mention MECH's military connection, it stands to reason that the military already has weapons in development to take out the invaders should the time come.

    Someone's cleaning up the Autobot's mess after battles--sounds like the military and the Decepticons at time (Megatron was pretty pissed that Dredwing didn't return with Breakdown's body). I wouldn't be too surprised if the Armed Forces used those lifeless chassis to test experimental weapons on--one should keep in mind that Agent Fowler is often (if not always) flying experimental aircraft while in the company of the Autobots or investigations. This has been told to us when Skyquake, Airachnid and Dredwing all obtained their alternate modes, so why would he be packing weapons that are to experimental and stronger than the usual stuff?
     
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    I have a feeling that because
    Optimus Is dead
    The military is going to be more involved and try to attack New Kaon. Fowler can do as he might to try and prevent it as Optimus would have wanted but they'll likely ignore him and proceed with a full scale assault; getting absolutely ruined in the fight.
     
  16. ISleepNow

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    For the show to make any sense or retain any credibility after what happened in episode 52 the military will Have to get involved in a more significant way now that the Decepticons have kicked the Autobots out and established Their base in Jasper without Our permission

    Worth using for both defensive and offensive purposes
     
  17. AxionPrime

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    Or, maybe Fowler's just that awesome. And, therefore, bullets, just by way of being shot by Fowler, become automatically able to kill advanced alien robots.

    'It stands to reason'? What are you, Optimus Prime, now?
     
  18. EnergonWaffles

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    Even if the tower gets flattened, the Decepticons can just hop on the Nemesis and cloak themselves.

    Even if the military did manage to pull together a strike, the Decepticons will know about it right away thanks to Soundwave. I really hope they don't pull a DoTM Bay and have soldiers flying in and going all rambo inside New Kaon >.<

    Hopefully most military action will take place off screen and we'll just be told about it.
     
  19. Space Jawa

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    I wouldn't be surprised if we're shown that while the Vehicons are susceptible to human weaponry, it still takes a lot of effort for the humans to have much impact, and when the big guns like Megatron and Starscream enter the battlefield, that's when it really takes the Autobots to ensure that it's not a complete route. Or, for that matter, they wind up being completely outgunned whenever the Decepticon warship shows up. (zap-boom!)

    It may also be that while the Humans aren't ineffective, the casualties they'd take trying to fight the Decepticons on their own would lead to massive casualties.

    In short, it's not that the humans are ineffective against the Decepticons, it's just that they're highly inefficient.
     
  20. AxionPrime

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    I think you just took the rationality award for the day.