Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Red Goblin, Oct 13, 2016.
Are they needed? Regular human weapons seem to work fine against cybertronians!
Could someone do translation from the video?
That's gotta be one of Cade's guns.
What the heck is that thing?!?
That seriously is the worst sci fi gun I have ever seen. It is a rock with a trigger and gun sight and a barrel. There are nerf guns that look better as guns.
Handle, trigger, magazine, sight, shoulder stock and strap...seems reasonable enough to me.
Anyone who's complaining about this weapon is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.
That's just absurdly ridiculous.
If these were MY movies to helm I'd certainly do some things differently.
And I like the things I like but I think my posts and especially MY THREADS go a LONG way towards demonstrating that I certainly don't do so "blindly" or "without any thought," lolfail.
Oh your threads are certainly well thought out and sometimes quite interesting, but i don't think i ever seen you criticise these movies.
Annnd that link doesn't work. lolwutfail and that!
It links to a list of threads I've made. I've clicked it 10 times, it works just fine on my end.
And I've been almost 1,000% satisfied with the movies, I don't really feel the need to drag them through the mud simply because they didn't exactly read my mind in a few cases. They're great movies and I love them. If I wanted to dwell on negativity while calling it fair and balanced I'd watch Fox News.
Looks like Cade patented that shit.
Well, to be fair it's never stated in the video what this gun is supposed to be. I think Red Goblin is simply speculating by calling it a "hybrid gun". You are well within your right to dislike the design but I think we all need to know more about it's origin and purpose in the movie before we judge if that fits it's design.
... it looks.... weird. not how I could see a human/Cybertronian weapon looking like TBH. I'm intrigued as to how they were built and who by. After the weapon Cade wielding last time out, i'm surprised it looks so... that.
Wonder if this is something some dude whipped up in his garage or something (I mean in movie), rather than something the military or a PMC designed. (Not yet watched the video BTW)
I'll be happy if this means human weaponry is useless now.
It looks less like a gun than the actual Cybertronian guns that Optimus, Soundwave, Ironhide, etc used actually do.
Fair enough on the hybrid idea.
But at the same time, it's one freakin' bland gun. Where's the color, the pizzaz? It looks like something Megatron crapped out and had blatantly obvious aftermarket ironsights, trigger, and stock attached - they're black where the gun is gray and this actually wouldn't be a problem if there was distinct manmade bits also in the main body of the gun as far as I really am concerned. Then at the same time...it looks like every other generic 'big rifle' ever just with some fancy metal work. It's clearly Cybertronian based but if so, then why is it basically a knockoff Conference Call Hyperion Shotgun, except blandly monochrome with zero highlights and zero integration with the parts needed to make it function, all attention having been trying to make it look like elves from LOTR did the detail work on the sides?
Plus, as Split points out, the actual cybertronian guns in the actual films look nothing like it, either!
AOE! Granted this is concept art but even Nizzi knew better than this over ornate garbage the series is plagued with now.
I utterly loathe the Optimus redesign but that shield gun is totally channeling WH40K Knight Titan guns because you do not have to do fucking elvish ironwork to make guns and knight themes work.
Adding to your collection of pleasing gun designs. ^
This is my favorite weapon design and I'm not even sure if it made it to the movie.
^ Oh, yes. That is beautiful.
Why do we get stupid H.R. Gieger guns that don't look like the pods from Man of Steel and almost certainly will not transform (because why should transforming be important in these films? It's all about how Prime and human history somehow are involved in an on again off again relationship), instead of simpler designs like that which could transform between two modes for different functionalities?
That's the problem with the films. The idea of transformation is fucking useless when it comes to trying to one-up in sequels. They don't toy with how far they can get with the concept yet do absolutely stupid things like make the robots have less kibble and stuff to the point they apparently rip off the alien's ship from Super 8. It's becoming basically a genericised District 9 except the CGI budget is infinitely higher and the story is infinitely shittier in comparison.
I may not always necessarily agree with you on movie related things, but the transforming weapons thing made think about AOE and how they had a gun that changed into... a Beats Pill. Utterly useless. Admittedly there was Cade's sword gun but it was barely used as a sword.
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