How would you improve Bumblebee?

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  1. Maximus Danz

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    Despite how much I love the two cons, I have a better Idea.

    It starts with the Huge ark taking off with everyone inside, cut to Megatron (Blend of Movie and g1) yells to his commanders (Starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave) to destroy it. Thundercracker, Skywarp, Blitzwing (real one in jet mode) and the cone-heads fly up and destroy the ark. The autobots escape via escape pod to many different planets. Megatron yells at all of them "Why are you still here!?!?!?" and sends them after the autobots (Starscream Abuse here)

    Bumblebee's pod gets blown up close to earth, injuring him and he takes on the beetle mode.

    all charlie stuff plays out as normal.

    The radio transmition is still sent to Cliffjumper, But here, he is fighting of Rumble, ravage and Laserbeak. Soundwave notices the transmition and swiftly jumps into battle and gravely injures Cliffjumper. He soon does his mental thing that allows him to know about the escape pod and Bee's mission (stays the same). Soundwave sends a transmission to starscrem, Here is how it plays out:

    Soundwave: "Come in, air commander starscream, Autobot traget, B, found on planet designated, earth, Target, Cliffjumper, has been termanated."

    Starscream: "Good, I will take care of this runt myself!"

    Soundwave: "Negative, suggested course of action, deploy tracking specialists Runamuck and Runabout."

    Starscream: "Fine! I will take them with me."

    the rest of the movie plays out as normal, Starscream makes friends with sector 7, letting Runamuck and Runabout have the tracking tech. Charlie plays out as normal, The cons try to send the transmition to cybertron and bumblebee stops them killing Runamuck and Runabout. Starscream escapes to cybertron and movie ends all the same with auto bots coming to earth.
     
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  2. iceburn9

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    Same feeling here. Was willing to give the G1 designs a chance, but after seeing it, it just don't feel right. Especially Optimus' scene at the end.

    I'm not sure if it's the blockiness or perhaps a problem with the CGI. But it reminded me of movies like The Smurfs or Garfield where you can clearly tell that the characters were artificial and pasted into the scene.

    I didn't get that with Bumblebee, who looked like he existed in real life. But Optimus against the forest background, and driving on the bridge, it didn't feel photorealistic or believable enough.
     
  3. Music

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    Wait, what? There was literally an actual physical truck driving on the bridge. That's like as real as you can get.
     
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  4. primal789

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    You know things are getting crazy when a real truck feels like a truck from the cartoons:lol :lol 
     
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    Probably remove the scene where Bumblebee's eyes turn red, and he goes on a rampage. I didn't think it was bad, but it felt like it only existed to hit that plot point, because it was used in movies like the Iron Giant. Besides that, I'm not sure what it implies about Transformer physiology. Bumblebee can turn into a Decepticon by...trying to defend his friend? If brutality and moral ambiguity defines which faction you're on, Optimus would definitely have red eyes in the other movies. I thought the logic of this trope was handled much better in Big Hero 6.
     
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  6. Optimistic Prime

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    I thought it was an interesting idea, although it didn't make much sense. I guess he turns evil if he is doing something really good, or maybe he gets angry like the Hulk and then goes onto a rampage.
     
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    I'm not sure if it's the colours, or the thing being totally shiny and spotless (which most trucks aren't), that made it feel not right.

    (I know, he just arrived from space and wasn't around long enough to gather dirt)
     
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    Plus how did shatter and dropkick get earth car modes when they were talking to cliffjumper.. as he was on a different planet.? They didnt even arrive to earth till later.?
     
  9. Optimistic Prime

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    That was their cybertronian mode. It looks similar so their Earth mode, so I can see the misunderstanding. When they arrived to Earth, they scanned the vehicles from their escape pods, so as soon as they landed, they had the Earth cars/vehicles.
     
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    Will they ever make a film that takes place during Winter on Earth? Why is it always Summer? It’s kinda boring actually. The only actual weather we’ve seen was raining during the scene where Megatron and Barricade were talking in TLK. It seems like a stupid thing to complain about but ITS ALWAYS SUMMER AND SUNNY. Why?
     
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  11. primal789

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    There was also rain when Wheelie entered Sam's house in DOTM on the dog.But hey we never had a final battle at night untill now so that's that...it's still something different.
     
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    Very interesting point!!! I never thought about that...
     
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    A movie with this type of tone would work great for a Christmas Transformer film. Bee doing goofy things like trying to put a star on a tree but instead knocking it over.
     
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    I would liked for Bumblebee to have another Autobot to join him in his journey. Like Blaster.
     
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    That was actually a plus for me as we have never really seen a good Transformers fight scene done at night let alone a final battle
     
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    Cliffjumper in the film wasn't really Cliffjumper

    Should've just replaced him with Brawn instead of killing him at the beginning
     
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    I'm pretty sure Prime's design was actually slightly different on earth, I'm pretty sure his waist was at a point and higher up.
     
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    Add Megatron, make Blitzwing look like Blitzwing, Maybe have Ultra Magnus?
     
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    Personally, having at least 1 of the villains survive would have been a vast improvement. Keep in mind, the Decepticons do find the Autobots in the end.

    Also, I wish more background on the Cybertron conflict was shown. Shatter and Blitzwing referred to Bee as a "traitor" to Cybertron, which sounds like this was something along the lines of a Revolution and the culling of Autobots was the "Revolution" dealing with the Ancien Regime. There is some political undertones there that can be further elaborated on.
     
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    Brawn? Hell no. Replace him with Huffer if anything.
     
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