How would you fit the GI Joe movies into the Transformers movie continuity without "rebooting"?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by TLP, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. TLP

    TLP Ain't No Chicken Wing

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Posts:
    351
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    137
    Likes:
    +425
    GI Joe had a different President than what we saw or were alluded to in the first three Transformers films. (Namely George Bush and Obama, who were real life Presidents as opposed to the generic nameless President in GI Joe Rise of Cobra.) However, if the GI Joe films are meant to take place in the "near future", i.e. after Dark of the Moon...why did the Joes never acknowledge the existence of alien robots?

    If Hasbro wants to create their own movie universe, they may need to put some extra thought into how it will all fit together without a DOFP-style "restart". I imagine that's why they hired a dozen of the most talented writers from the industry to work out some of the finer details.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Hazekiah

    Hazekiah Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Posts:
    3,522
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Likes:
    +486
    Honestly, I don't really think the first two movies are worth trying to salvage with a third, so I'd rather they just reboot if they plan to incorporate G.I. Joe into the TFCU and/or the HCU.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  3. Sixshot93

    Sixshot93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2009
    Posts:
    1,105
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +1,034
    Yeah, like he says.
     
  4. MV95

    MV95 @marlinfan1995 Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Posts:
    6,755
    News Credits:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    297
    Location:
    United States
    Likes:
    +3,931
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    Definitely not worth it. If the GI Joe movies were terrific then sure, but they're a mess, so trying to fit those in would be devastating in regards to storytelling. It'd kinda be like trying to fit the X-Men universe into the MCU. No way for it to work.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Sixshot93

    Sixshot93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2009
    Posts:
    1,105
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +1,034
    Yeah, the rebooted GI Joe would have to look so aesthetically different 'cos there's no point in hoping for a comeback by The Rock now he's got more money than God these days.
     
  6. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Posts:
    15,966
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +3,231
    GI Joe would be the safe one to reboot since they never burned up the box office in either the US or overseas. It's not like Paramount would be risking a big money maker. So just have GI Joe form as part of the reaction to alien robots showing up and tearing up cities. Heck it would even be an excuse for Cobra to have such cool gear if technology is getting out there in the wrong hands.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  7. bellpeppers

    bellpeppers A Meat Popsicle

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Posts:
    27,525
    News Credits:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    Somewhere over Macho Grande
    Likes:
    +26,478
    The Joes have already more or less be in the films. Just give Lennox a code name of Duke, and Epps as Ripcord. And rename their team.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  8. TLP

    TLP Ain't No Chicken Wing

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Posts:
    351
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    137
    Likes:
    +425
    Holy sh*t, that's better than my idea.
     
  9. Ironhide1234

    Ironhide1234 Here.

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2014
    Posts:
    5,895
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    242
    Location:
    UK
    Likes:
    +507
    A new GI Joe is the better option. Maybe NEST/TRF is where it may come from...?
     
  10. Chris James

    Chris James Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Posts:
    3,504
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    San Diego
    Likes:
    +1,964
    One of these series is gonna need to reboot for a crossover to work. I think we all know which one that will be....

    I'm one of the few who doesn't care much for a crossover between the two.
     
  11. ChaosDonkey

    ChaosDonkey Lord Brain

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Posts:
    1,963
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +439
    Cobra is actually behind cemetery wind.
    And those around dylan turned into cobra through con tech
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,294
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    462
    Likes:
    +2,894
    You shouldn't.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. BumblebeeFan71

    BumblebeeFan71 Loyal Starscream Follower

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2015
    Posts:
    1,529
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wherever Optimus' Trailer disappers to.
    Likes:
    +838
    YouTube (Legacy):
    But don't they pretty much have no choice but to reboot because of Duke. In the second film they killed him off and it would be easier to reboot the series rather than write a complicated reason for how he survived. Or in the case of Storm Shadow, not even bother trying to come up with a reason and have him just appear.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Crosshairs123

    Crosshairs123 the autobot prick.

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2016
    Posts:
    79
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Likes:
    +49

    The GI joe movies sucked. But the destruction scenes were pretty cool.
     
  15. sevenlima

    sevenlima Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2011
    Posts:
    4,271
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    Brazil, RJ
    Likes:
    +1,534
    Ebay:
    I think Duke could show up in end of a transformers movie make cameo.
     
  16. Livingdeaddan

    Livingdeaddan DEFIANTLILHORDE

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2009
    Posts:
    5,495
    News Credits:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    京都市
    Likes:
    +3,742
    Does anyone even care about GI Joe?
    Do we need more cinematic versions?
    Does Hasbro have a lot invested? Funnily enough, the only thing about them i remember from the 80's is the commercial theme tune! "Action Force, the greatest heroes of them all!"
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2016
  17. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    26,059
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    357
    Likes:
    +10,543
    What possible benefit could there be to not rebooting the GI Joe movies? Pretty much all the Joes got killed off except Roadblock, Falcon pretending to be Flint, some generic female character calling herself Lady Jaye, and Snake-Eyes. Duke was dead from the beginning of the first movie, when they hired a semi-sentient mannequin to play him. And don't get me started on the COBRA characters.

    The GI Joe movies are part of the reason I laugh when I hear people complain about the TF films.
     
  18. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Posts:
    15,966
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +3,231
    Back in the 80's GI Joe was huge. It was the flag ship brand of Hasbro and often you found stores making more room for GI Joe toys than the Transformers toys so hard to imagine now but there was a point in pop culture where you could argue that GI Joe was bigger than Transformers. They also had the luck of it was when the rules about cartoons on US television changed so they got to part of that early wave of cartoons aimed at selling toys.

    But after A Real American Hero started running out of ideas in the era of neon colored toys and the cartoon series went from Sunbow/Marvel to DIC the brand was just ran out steam and out of ideas. Hasbro tried some new cartoons like GI Joe Extreme, Sigma 6, GI Joe Resolute, and GI Joe Renegades, but they were no where close to the insane popularity of A Real American Hero. The brand has been stuck in the shadow of it's biggest moment.

    For Hasbro I imagine they still dream of being able to sell GI Joe toys like they did back in the 80's, you can never have too many big brands making boat loads of money. For toy fans it was a great age because there was a lot of imagination and creativity that went into characters and vehicles. With nostalgia sometimes resulting in monster box office runs I'm sure Paramount wouldn't mind a boat load of money if they could ever tap that market. Plus if Paramount could get another huge franchise going that would mean everything doesn't have to ride on Transformers for the foreseeable future.

    Ninja, lasers, snake themed villains, gun play, explosions, comic book style villains, cool vehicles, punch em up, shoot em up, action, adventure, honestly it's a bit shocking that Paramount can't seem to make a good movie out of all the elements they have to work with.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  19. MadGreek2

    MadGreek2 Weapons Specialist

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2015
    Posts:
    325
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Likes:
    +241

    I agree. It might actually work since they've already paired the Autobots with the military in the films.
     
  20. Venixion

    Venixion Its always the middle of the night in Moonside

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Posts:
    25,306
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Location:
    California
    Likes:
    +40,676
    I'm not sure I would. But perhaps if they got introduced to work with the Joes to fight off both human enemies and Decepticons. Still, a reboot makes more sense.