how to make a Transformers/ G.i. Joe crossover work?

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  1. bigfootRULES

    bigfootRULES Well-Known Member

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    i know some people hate this idea but what if there was a story that worked? i mean how would you make a Transformers/ G.i. Joe work?
     
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    Already done.
     
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    Pretty sure that bigfootrules asked for a crossover that actually works.

    He most certainly did not ask for the fever induced diahrea of a man blasted out of his gourd on peyote and jagermeister
     
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    This reply reminds me of the lights coming on after David Lynch's Inland Empire, and some angry housewife sitting in the row behind me angrily complaining to her friend that the movie didn't make any sense. Confusing her own limitations with an absence of substance. Part of me felt bad for her, but most of me thought she should've just stayed home and watched whatever mindless tripe she was used to and could enjoy.
     
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    For something realistic, try the IDW recent comics maybe.
     
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    Ohhhh boy, you've given me some luggage to unpack.

    *cracks knuckles*

    I'd hardly call Scioli's work of joe vs tf equatable to David Lynch. If anything it's closer to Robert Rodriguez. Intentionally Grindhouse and retro.

    I can appreciate a bonkers plot, I'm one of the brave souls who tried wrapping his brain around Binaltech/Alternity fiction

    But even the best plot is meaningless without presentation.Comics and movies are visual mediums after all. And the retro style hurt joe vs tf more than helped it.
    Just imagine how well received that book would have been with Alex Milne, Kei Zama, or (Dagon forbid) Sara Stone on art duties.

    Why settle for Uwe Boll when you can have Guiellmo del Toro
     
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    So you didn't read it. Okay.
     
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    I honestly tried. And I can appreciate what the plot was trying to do. I love it when TF fiction takes hard lefts and shuffles about the preconcieved bullshit we've accrued over the last 32 years.
    But the gawdawful retro art ruined it for me. As I said the "retro"art style hurt the overall experience of the book.
     
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    I get that the Kirby-lite style is not your thing, but IDW does not have a single artist that could convey the cosmic tone of the story. Milne is perfect for MTMTE/LL, but he would have been laughable on TF vs GI Joe. The other names you listed would be even more ridiculous and pointless.

    In fact, it's hard to imagine any currently working artist at any US publisher who could have pulled it off as well, much less better. Maybe John Romita Jr, if he wanted to take a 96% pay cut.
     
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    The art reminded me that 6 graders should pay attention to their teachers instead of doodling during class.
     
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    Have them team up with the TFs against the Cons and maybe even Cobra.


    Isn't that the inspiration of most 80s properties? Hee hee
     
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    At this point, since Devil's Due's already used what I consider the ideal approach on the subject, I'd go for another season of RID (animated or comic-book form) where the remnants of MECH have been gathered and reorganized into COBRA.
     
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    Or in video game.
     
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    It's been done before, so I don't think its something too terribly hard to accomplish.
     
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    Burn it! Burn it! Send it to Hell!

    Only thing I liked were the Transformer designs.

    I tried to give it a chance but it was as horrible as the Angry Birds crossover and only reinforced my opinion that IDW should relinquish the franchise.

    They're almost as bad as Bay.

    Devil's Due did the only good crossovers apart from the Marvel UK one.
     
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    Problem with Transformers is they are too powerful compared to the Joes. Realistically, a bunch of humans should not be able to overpower giant alien robots from outer space.

    You'd need to find a way to put the two franchises on equal footing, such as...

    • An 'Only Human' style plot where the Transformers became human.
    • GI Joe vs the Micromasters.
    • Stick them all in a mental battle on the astral plane or in a computer game or something (like Afterdeath)
    • The Joes become headmaster partners or similarly merged/fused to the Transformers.
     
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    Don't you mean the Action Force
     
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    I would agree with this. It's been a while since I've read it, but it being set in WWII era made not too unrealistic. I seem to remember it was a bit gritty/noir too.
     
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    Guess I do
     
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    Honestly, most of the existing TF/Joe crossovers work in my opinion.

    I loved the Devil's Due series and the fun that they had with it. Serpent O.R. is probably my favorite interpretation of that character. I really like the subtle crossovers in the original cartoons. The Marvel crossovers are largely forgettable, but they did not do any harm to either series. While Transformers vs. G.I. Joe is a bit of a mixed bag for me, I think there are legitimately great issues in that series, like the Scorponok/Springfield crossover and the Destro origin, and I appreciate that it was willing to get really weird. And I've been enjoying most of the post-Revolution IDW stuff so far.

    The only one that I think did not work at all was the Dreamwave one. Which is too bad because the concept behind the series is pretty solid. A Joe story set in WWII is an interesting concept and Hearts of Steel showed that Transformers can do period pieces. But I have never seen a series so let down by its art. As much as people will complain about Tom Scoili's art (and I am no fan of it myself), at least I could always tell what was going on instead of everything being in constant shadows. I used to think that Livio Ramondelli's art was too dark, but compared to this series, his art is blinding.
     
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