I'm just curious on the general concensus. Do you view Micromasters as Transformers that actually turn into tiny cars, or, are they just small figures of normal sized characters?

The Targetmaster/Battlemaster scale makes sense, but the mini-con idea of just being small transformers is kinda wack as they turn into normal earth vehicles.

What are your thoughts on this?

 

I follow whatever the lore says. When I grew up, Micromasters were normal-sized TFs that upgraded to smaller bodies to conserve energy, then later on became Maximals & Predacons. WFCT is what I'm following now, and Micromasters are presented there as human-sized Transformers that existed alongside guzzlers since at the least the Great War pre-Earth.

Plus, Micromasters not being micro is nonsensical to me, but meh. =/

 

They bridge the gap between present-day G1 Cybertronians and pre-Beast Wars Maximals and Predacons for me. The next generation of bots switching to fuel-efficient bodies is the solution to their whole energy crisis.

 

I thought the whole point was that they're small.

 

Where does this part of the lore come from?

 

I always viewed them as sort of the Legion/Legends/Cyberverse class of G1, and had little attachment to the characters themselves. Now? I got some bought for me, so I went with all of them. I don't need a unified scale, I simply collect. I was quite happy with Micromasters that were normal sized, and would have loved a Roadhandler repaint of Generations Drift.

 

The "micro" aspect to me really only applied to their toy marketing. In-universe, they're just the same as every other bot.

 

Normal sized. I see Micromaster just as a marketing term and not as a real sub-group. It wouldn't make sense to have tiny cars driving around normal sized cars. That's why I always wanted a tiny Optimus and Megatron for the Micromasters. I used Overload as Optimus and Flattop as Starscream. It was basically Hasbro's answer to the hype of Galoob's Micromachines.

I remember as a kid a wrote a letter to Hasbro with a drawing that I wanted Roadhandler also as a regular size Transformer. Transformation wise he wasn't too different from Transformers like Nightbeat or Siren which were also favorites of myself and I loved the Trans Am alt mode and everything about the sculpt of his robot mode. I wonder if they actually got that letter...

I actually still like the old Micromaster of Roadhandler more than the new version, especially because they chose the older Trans Am for the newer version, which I don't like as much. The 1982 Trans Am was the best.

 

This is exactly the conversation I was hoping for instead of internet hate.

Thanks!

 

I never really thought about it, since they never appeared in the cartoon, but according to TFWiki the micromasters were downsized to conserve energy, which kind of makes them redundant with Maximals and Predacons, but I guess the Beast Wars Uprising comic sort of establishes them as an intermediate step. So, like, Autobot/Decepticons were the DS Phat, Micromasters were the DS Lite, and Maximals/Predacons were the DSi. Depending on what continuity you go by. In the cartoon continuity they may not have even existed at all.

 

I suppose what made me question all of this is the alt modes.

Downsizing, totally understandable. It's just keeping normal earth vehicle modes seems so weird, doubly so if people use micromasters as playset accessories with titans.

To be fair, the same thing applies to mini bots. You can almost play off Bumblebee or Cliffjumper, but Seaspray or Warpath seems ridiculous.

Such is the life of a TF fan....

 

Cybertronian Homunculi.

 

more as another scale, as they work with the larger city bots and other things.. the weapon for larger TFs gimmick doesn't really work all the much to me.

 

Micromaster - Transformers Wiki

Everyone should read up on Micromasters IMO.

 

But I believe you are misrepresenting the lore....

....Where exactly does it say that the micromasters themselves became maximal’s and predacons?

 

That's not what I meant. I meant that their entire species(Cybertronians) moved from the Micromaster thing to the Beast Wars faction. You were misrepresenting what I said and meant. Please don't do that again.

 

Tiny characters. Cybertronians don't have standard sizes, Metroplex to Insections (In their profile, they can become actual insect sized), Transformer sizes can be and are all over the place.

That's not to say that all small Transformers are for me, tiny characters because their toys are tiny. Some characters are just small scale versions of larger figures, like RID/CR Spychanger Scourge, Optimus, and Magnus. Or for many years the Cyberverse toys.

 

I wasn’t being rude, but it wasn’t so much me Misinterpreting but you not being as clear as you thought you were being

Micromasters were normal-sized TFs that upgraded to smaller bodies to conserve energy, then later on became Maximals & Predacons.

That pretty much says that the Micromasters were transformers that later became the Maximals and Predacons

by far I do not have the best grammar but if you can’t see how that can be read by others then Perhaps you should choose your words more wisely

 

Do you care about the message that I was conveying, or just the way I was conveying it? Because as of my last post, you should know what I meant. If you're still only going to address how I said it, we're done here. I don't care about your distaste for the way I say things, I came here to discuss Micromasters.

 

Then... why are they called Micromasters?