Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by DarkRed401, Sep 28, 2018.
No toys on shelves I would assume.
Not a good movies. It's nothing but a feature length toy commercial. The movie does not introduce transformers to people who never seen transformers. The characters are annoying and never help. The movie had way too many characters. Unicron is forced, optimus' death is forced, and hot rod felt forced. It's basically everything wrong with an 80's show.
But the animation was amazing. It did have some badass and emotional scenes (if your a person who cares about these characters). And while the new characters weren't properly introduced, they were still fun. The voice work was amazing.
Without the 1986 movie we wouldn't probably see characters like Kup, Blurr, Acree, Ultra Magnus, and most importantly Hot Rodimus Prime.
Don't you know that animation errors are the brutalist and deadliest weapons of all?
My neck in the woods? Let me ask you something first, how old are you? And then ill tell you.
Shocked? You are shocked that in this forum the majority are bayverse fans that cant stand anything that has to do with g1 without even giving it a shot? I doubt most of those people commenting in here have even seen it, or even paid any attention to it really.
I mean its always the same: It has animation errors, and its a toy commercial. Because lets face it, the bayverse had no animation errors and most certainly was not a toy commercial
Here's your introduction for the uninitiated.
May I ask why ?
I did not know that this site was full of more bay fans
But I tend to stay out of those topics
That’s the UK introduction to the film
That’s certainly possible but I kind a remember a “Mail in order” offer at the time but who knows
Yes, and it's how I saw it for the first 14 years. Funny thing it's exactly the same length as the credits sequence it replaces and you can even see the tape marks where they stuck it into the print, I guess they didn't want to make more whole prints so just edited the ones they had with this one bit of footage
They’re just really lazy
Thought you were younger and I had to explain what the distrubution was like back in the day without the internet
Anyways, my back of the woods is Greece.
I’m old, but being in Europe I wouldn’t put distribution was better than other parts of the world besides the US of course
Context is key - as a 6 year old kid Optimus Prime dying was more poignant to me than anything I can think of that I've watched subsequently including films which based on real life and have a deep message. From what I read, the producers underestimated the impact of killing off prime on the fanbase but I honestly can't see that that would have been overlooked by everyone involved in the production, however looking back that one moment probably defined the film and was a critical part of it's plot arc and whether you argue it was for the purposes of selling more toys or not it was a powerful moment for anyone invested in the franchise. I still can't fully enjoy the film because of it and I have to watch dark awakening and the headmasters trilogy immediately thereafter to kid myself that it was all planned as a follow up.
It's still my alltime favourite animated movie.
What would I change?
Have Prowl and the shuttle crew put up more of a fight. Preferably killing the Insecticons. Show Prowl to have survived afterwards.
Double the length of the Autobot City battle including the deleted scenes we all know about and with the generic Seekers from Season 1. Have the Constructicons killed.
Redo the fight between Megatron and Prime. Never liked it. The Hot Rod/Galvatron fight was much better.
Have Skywarp in the foreground, becoming Cyclonus.
After Starscream's assassination, have some Decepticons resist Galvatron. Show him and Cyclonus to be quite powerful, killing Astrotrain, Blitzwing and several generic Seekers in hand to hand combat.
Shorten the Moonbase, Quintesson and Junk scenes. They do drag on. Let's see more Autobots on the Moonbases.
Make Galvatron's attack on Autobot City longer. Maybe some hand to hand combat between him and Ultra Magnus.
More Blurr, Blaster, Soundwave, Cyclonus and Scourge.
No Exo Suits. They look crap.
Kill Kup. Horrible design. Kill Perceptor, Cliffjumper and Bumblebee.
More footage of Decepticons fighting Unicron.
You like Prowl don't you.
While I do agree the Galvatron/rodimus fight was a better transformers fight with the back and forth the use of transformations and abilities in both modes. The op megs fight was as good as it could be as Megatron due to the nature on his transformation can't really compete in a transformation fight. Turns into a gun then Optimus drives over him?
Turns into a gun, shoots, transforms back just like in the intro really.
The movie has been my favorite for many years.
The scene where Optimus shows up and dies fighting Megatron makes it worth it;
but After Galvatron kills Starscream the film takes a steep nose dive for me. It gets highly embarrassing and Grimlock has aged like a 2 week old turd on a Texas highway.
It's okay, I guess. The first few scenes were pretty fine, until Prime and the others were killed. After that, with Rodimus Prime and everything, it became quite bad. The soundtrack was good, though.
Wow wow. Don't be ridiculous. The cheesy rock songs are perfect.
Seriously guys. You're expecting way too much from a kids movie in 1986.
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