Have hope, there's a chance...(spoilers)

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  1. ironguymanpie

    ironguymanpie Well-Known Member

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    Not saying it's likely, in fact I'm more than likely in desperation, but ratchets spark wasnt destroyed, for all we know it could be chilling on the nightship in some dark corridor, slap that baby into a protoform and you give ratchet a new lease on life. Also, I have a feeling that sideswipe is definetly still alive, as his ability to roll fast in robot and vehicle mode gives him a great advantage, and I bet wheelies with him, got a feeling. They are probably just chilling waiting for the longest hide and seek game ever to end. A guy can dream can't he?
     
  2. BarricadeLives

    BarricadeLives i'm you! i'm your shadow!

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    i am onboard with sideswipe being alive...we will know conclusively once we get some pics of that scene.

    as far as ratchet coming back..i doubt it...it seems like only mega & prime are allowed to come back.
     
  3. Scorpio

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    Ratchet's spark was in Lockdown's spark extractor. The spark extractor was part of Lockdown.

    Chances are its either on Lockdown's ship or destroyed with Lockdown's body.

    Remember Attinger said less than a dozen Autobots were alive (in hiding) at the beginning of the movie;
    1 - Optimus
    2 - Drift
    3 - Hound
    4 - Crosshairs
    5 - Leadfoot
    6 - Ratchet
    7 - Bumblebee
    8 - Sideswipe
    9 - Dino
    10 - Topspin
    11 - Roadbuster

    Wheelie we can assume died in DOTM
    Brains was in Attinger's custody

    The only surviving Autobots at the end of the film are;
    1 - Optimus
    2 - Bumblebee
    3 - Drift
    4 - Crosshairs
    5 - Hound
    6 - Brains (maybe...)
     
  4. ironguymanpie

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    Technically he wouldn't be coming back to life,if the t
    Rules from other tf lore apply here, ratchets body may now be scrap, or better yet, melted scrap, but his mind, his memories, are as far as we know, still with us. Plus bay said the nightship has many things that can be used for future films
     
  5. FanimusMaximus

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    Your optimism is admirable, but illogical.

    Besides Gavatron and OP there is no way the others are gonna come back.
     
  6. Haloid1177

    Haloid1177 Hey, That's Pretty Good

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    You're forgetting the godly Bumblebee bro.
     
  7. AquamanOS

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    It's certainly possible yeah. But I doubt it. I doubt they'd have killed him at all if they didn't want all the older Autobots gone.
     
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    no, he sad less than a dozen Decepticons were still in hiding. And at that point there would be no need to say less than 11 if he meant the Bots, as Leadfoot looked to be dead for some time and Ratchet was also just recently killed. So even if he was meaning Boys but covering as Cons, in sure he would have there are around 9 still in hiding.
     
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    If ratchets Spake chamber was kept as a trophy it would have been in lockdowns trophy case as he called it. Which is in the ship that the Dinobots were in. And that ship is now crashed in a secluded area of China. And I'm positive te Dinobot went back to that ship as it would serve nicely as a base of operations for them. They may even be able to fix it up over time. But as of now, it is for all intent and purposes, their crashed Ark. Who knows what else or who else Lockdown had locked up on that part of the ship too.
     
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    To be fair, we don't see what Lockdown does with Ratchet's spark. Likely it's a trophy being kept somewhere since he didn't just outright crush it.

    And I'm sure KSI could make a new body for Ratchet as penance for what they did. Make a body, put the spark back in, scan the vehicle, and bam. You've got Ratchet back.

    Obviously they won't do that, but it's not outside the realm of possibility for those who want to headcanon it.
     
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    so whose left on earth at the end of tf4?

    Brains
    Bumblebee
    Crosshairs
    Drift
    Grimlock
    Hound
    Scorn
    Slug
    Strafe

    VS

    Galvatron

    and then we have Mr. Prime in space (awesome)

    and probably 3-6 cons & bots in hiding that survived the human death squads

    not a bad set up for TF5
     
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    Regardless only 6 Autobots responded - so unless you can think of why the Autobots wouldn't respond to the call of Optimus then we're kind of stalemated
     
  13. ironguymanpie

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    Plus the nightship is still in the air at the end of the film, basically a flying piƱata that aint filled with candy
     
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    Either

    1. They were far far away on another continent and couldn't regroup in the US in time.

    2. They'd managed to get off earth.
     
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    They don't need a ship to get off planet. They have their travel pods, and in Prime's case, can just fly off the planet like Superman.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Swipe said "frag it" after the Chicago fight and left to go find other Bots (including Sunny).
     
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    Ratchet can be brought back because his spark still in tact and I would love that to happen because Ratchet is one of the big three Autobots since 2007! But it was the saddest death in the franchise so it would feel like a copout.
     
  17. ironguymanpie

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    Some autobots could be like optimus, they got so badly injured they were trapped in vehicle mode. Of they could have been out of communication range, in a cave, or they might of thought it was a trap/ ambush, wouldn't be the first one staged by humans. Some autobots might be in a situation where if they moved from their current location, they would be discovered
     
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    Or they just up and left the planet. :) 
     
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    I can see Ratchet's spark perhaps coming back, since it was long after that Optimus explained that the spark contains the life force and memories. And of course, why would Lockdown take it instead of just shooting him in the spark?
     
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    By the same token, KSI could conceivably rebuild and reanimate any Bots they did kill, IF they still have their heads or sparks.