Haslab Unicron

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by bearytrek, Jul 15, 2019.

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  1. WishfulThinking

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    If all of China is only mustering around 300 and Europe only pulls about the same, you better pray North Americans get to 7000 by Friday. Otherwise, it won't even be close.
     
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    Hmm... if haslab won't give us this AWESOME option, I bet a bunch of us will try to find a way to do it, if unicron gets funded.
     
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    I think we'll get the poster. We have seen the image for about a month and then there was the speed drawing video. Makes sense that they'd include it. If it were going to be sold separately why would they have it up on the funding page?

    I also think (read that as "hope") we will get some special blast effects...much like Omega Supreme. Explosion effects (like Bandai or some SW black series have) would be welcome additions.

    I can't see Hasbro making any significant changes to Unicron's design at this point. Too many people have bought into "this" version of Unicron. There's no telling if they'd be okay with any major changes.

    I'm of the opinion that we won't get any additional figures (slug-scale or Siege-scale). I think the Dinobots may be included in the third wave of the WFC toys. Perhaps we'll get some/most/all of the TF:TM figures at that time?
     
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    More and more, I’m of the opinion this gets made no matter what with the caveat that there is some semantics gymnastics involved. I think we get to 7000 on its own merits, possibly 7500. Hasbro will buy the last 500 as part of the pulse. I don’t think they want to do this but I think that would be there plan b
     
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    I kinda wonder how many people would jump in if they did offer the ability to take off the shells for bot mode. I heard one of the prototypes fell and broke at sdcc. Hell, I'll betcha the shells broke off and gave haslab the idea to add that option... sigh. Ya I know it's asking for too much.
     
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    Do you think you can pop all the planet kibble parts off and make a planet mode and the robot mode at the same time? Almost looks like it. It doesnt look like any of the robot mode is used in planet mode other than an internal support for the planet pieces

    Other than the rings that is.
     
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    I’m sorry to hear that. I just want to say how commendable it is that you have have learned from your vast experience and considerable wisdom and have decided to spend your last days on earth (*checks posts*) ... feverishly posting in a thread about a toy you don’t care for, ranting about how fans should judge their transformers, and using the word Hasblo unironically?
     
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  8. NTPrime

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    Not quite. The arms become the back of the planet mode, so you'd be left with a big hole. Other than that... it would surely be close.
     
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  9. WishfulThinking

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    I don't think Hasbro will fall on it's sword if it's underfunded.

    The only investment they've made is making a working 3D printer version that probably cost, what, $1500? Design time is there but there are many projects that get designs that never see the time of day. Promotional efforts are hardly existent - Hasbro was planning to be at SDCC and NYCC regardless of whether they were touring with a Unicron or not. Everything here is basically budgeted for as if they had a product they showed at Toyfair to retail clients - except the clients this time are the fans themselves.

    I just don't see them eating 500-1000 Unicrons. It'd be much better to walk away from the project at that point.
     
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    China will pull in more than 300, definitely more than 1000 I think. Might even be close to 2000. Remember, China makes up most of the population here in Asia (1 billion++). My country only has less than 1/10th that of China. So if we look at it that way, 300 x 10 = 3000. For all we know its already a done deal. But we won’t know for sure until they announce it at NYCC.
     
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    Great post!
     
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    When I found out from a chinese person who scooped a part of my collection that these things are way cheaper there I was surprised. He told me that the MPs go for so much less on sites like TaoBao which is difficult to navigate if you are not chinese. Sad really that an american company spins this stuff at such high costs. I asked if they were KOs by any chance he confirmed it was not and I asked how do they get away with it, he response was "of course its cheaper its made in china." ...This made me think I need to learn chinese and start using Taobao
     
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    No. There would be big gaps in the legs of the robot and no support structure for the planet. Not going to happen without significant additional parts. Maybe an aftermarket kit?
     
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    18 months salary for several employees makes this a very expensive prototype, plus added labor for painting and sanding down the 3D prints to something presentable. They may have had to bring in a couple of specialists for that part (and couldn't get one for their quick Galvatron turnaround hence it looking like rubbish). But that's beside the point. I agree that if this comes up short Hasbro will not produce it. 8000 is what they projected they needed and if it comes up short then their price model will not support it.

    However. If it does get up to 7500 let's say, they won't need to fudge the extra 500 because if it ever gets that close then stores and fans will close that gap themselves. Getting that close will create a cascade all on its own and they can make it legitimately. That's why I've been saying from the beginning this whole waiting-until-the-very-end-to-add-in-store-orders idea is stupid. They need to get their counter waaaay up and with time to spare before the deadline to get more people to buy it. If it's sitting at 6500 at midnight on Sunday and then a half hour later they're like "Good news! The store orders we just added in got our count to 8010 and this will be produced!" Well if the backers knew it was going to reach that beforehand then their final count could be nearing 9000.
     
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    I’d be reasonably surprised if any new extras are announced. We shall see.
     
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    Yup. We can find toys here cheaper in general than how much you can get it there in the US (I’m assuming you’re from the US) not always but yes most of the time.
     
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    I hope at least the poster is a no-brainer. Even if it's just a rolled up piece of paper crumpled into the box, announced 10 minutes before the deadline, they've gotta generate some last-minute excitement somehow.
     
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    I dunno, this unicron has been polarizing. The stigma of this, if haslab let's it fail, will be a planet size bigger than cookie monster and have repercussions on the 5k white whales who really want Unicron built. Haslab and Pulse would have a hard time rallying the fans up to buy their stuff or do other crowdfunds if 2 of the 3 big attempts failed miserably. My two cents.
     
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    I worry that if Hasbro were to interfere in some way to make it succeed, either by lowering the target or buying the remaining slots needed to succeed, it would have more of a negative effect on crowdfunding and HasLab future projects than if they just were to let it fail. I think people would lose all faith in the integrity of the crowdfunded projects they put forth. At least by allowing them to fail, they are truly allowing the masses to speak with their wallets and decide the fate of a project.
     
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    You are correct about the population of China, but if I'm not mistaken, their GDP per person (per capita) is significantly lower than most other developed countries.
    The GDP per Capita in the United States is equivalent to 432 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in the United States averaged 35552.91 USD from 1960 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 54541.70 USD in 2018 and a record low of 17550.60 USD in 1960.
    The GDP per Capita in China is equivalent to 61 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in China averaged 1762.12 USD from 1960 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 7755 USD in 2018 and a record low of 132.30 USD in 1962.
    This means that although there is a greater number of people in China, it does not necessarily mean those that want Unicron can afford him at the same scale of the United States.
     
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