What I find funny is that Takara actually costs more than third party nowadays, especially in the MP segment, but ppl argue otherwise using companies that haven't released anything for nearly a decade using price comparisons that are just as old. Makes no sense. Facts are facts. So if you're overpaying for 3p then what's happening with mp44, v2 bee or Hound? There is no principle behind your statement.....unless we've been transported back to 2013. Then you've got a point. Btw I have no horse in this race, I'll buy both, if it's the best representation it gets my money.