Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Jul 24, 2019.
I thought someone necro-bumped the last thread on this.
The history teacher in me thinks back to the Smoot-Hawley Tariff that exacerbated the Great Depression via reciprocal tariffs and other similar failed policies...
When was the last time tariffs actually worked? 1800s?
Don't worry, soon we'll have tariffs against India and Vietnam. Then the rest of Southeast Asia, then South America, then Africa. What could go wrong?
I wonder how this will effect TF? Price drop, price staying the same for a long time? Better quality? Lower quality?
To paraphrase a German comedian: The day there are no under-developed countries to screw over is the day your country is the under-developed country that gets screwed over.
They never worked. That's why they fell out of favor in the first place. Once economic theory developed to the point that economists and politicians realized viewing trade as a zero sum game was stupid and universally ineffective, tarrifs gradually fell out of favor. To go into detail as to why the US government is currently embracing tariffs as economic policy would break the rules, but I will say that it is profoundly ignorant of history and modern economic thought.
This thread is so doomed.
They should put a factory in MY underdeveloped country. That way most of the toys would get to see the light of day here, even if just in the form of failed pieces they dump behind my house.
All of my Siege figs have "Made in Vietnam" on the box...
And I know this stuff has been back and forth, but why can't we make it in America? No tariffs for American exporting of toys and games recently.
They should put a factory in my soon-to-be undeveloped country (the UK), there may be more chance of us finding Transformers here then!
Back to the 80s. I remember when all my toys had Vietnam or Korea on the bottom
There is a political component to this conversation, sure. That said, ultimately, this is just about corporate greed and not having to pay someone a living wage.
Hasbro can say this is about tariffs or whatever, but this is just about them wanting to cut cost. China has been taking small steps to improve working conditions for the poor rural areas and Hasbro doesn't want to have to pay for AC.
Vietnam has some of the worst working conditions in the world. Vietnam today is like China in 81. Not good.
Read about Samsung and Vietnam. It's not a pretty picture.
Lest we forget: 'Nightmare' conditions at Chinese factories where Hasbro and Disney toys are made
Them moving over to Vietnam doesn't have ANYTHING to do with shit like this.
Because in America we have things like a minimum wage and rules for how we treat our employees. Why would Hasbro pay for things like clean working conditions and medical care for its employees when it can get children to make toys in some country with god awful labor laws that allow them to exploit their workers.
Don't even get me started on the laws that allow for FORCED OVERTIME in Vietnam.
The company I work for just moved a facility from the UK to Ireland just to avoid issues post-Brexit.
With such a pace, you can safely and proudly declare that any transformer will have the inscription MADE IN JAPAN!
.....should I worry and place those pre orders for the later waves then?
Too be honest, I\'d rather made in India and or Vietnam. With growing up and collecting GI Joe, Fun School stuff only made in India and had good and unique toys come from there. Besides the Trade war stuff China doesn\'t make quality stuff, even toys! I\'ve bought several items that is China made and either I have to take it back right away and only last a few years and throw it out and re-buy it.
On the flip side of this, since Transformers came from Japan, why aren\'t made there?
It's not his fault companies addicted to cheap child labor are too thick to respond appropriately.
Tariffs don't work. Corporations aren't going to do what we think they should do. They're only going to move to places where the laws are even more unfavorable to workers.
The worst part about all of this is that I'm still just a consumerist whore who can't stop himself from buying this god awful shit because I have the willpower of a morbidly obese man in a candy store.
Copyright doesn't work. People aren't going to do what we think they should do. They're only going to find new ways to copy and share movies online.
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