Haha yea mostly prime then jetfire and a few megatrons lol
I sawa ton of payload returns...one was even upside down lol

 

i think you can have simple transformations, but i hate that the simple = playskool look vibe.

I don't really care how complex a transformation is, i care how good the alt mode and bot mode look ~ i think the "Earth" figures from Cybertron were a really good balance of great alt modes, intuitive yet not "spychanger-esque" transformations, and great looking, nicely articulated, well proportioned 'bot modes. (Deluxe Landmine and Voyager Evac from Cybertron are two of my all-time faves.)

I think when you go TOO simple (i.e. stand up, swing arms foreword) ~ especially on a larger toy ~ you kind of defeat the purpose of the theme, plus they often just don't look very good in one mode or the other (or both).

I passed on the Rescue Bots for my kid because they just looked too simple and couldn't really "do anything" ~ not everything needs to have ankle pivots and 27 points of articulation, but i at least think (as a kid) you ought be able to pretend your guy is running and can point at something. (incidentally, my son is 6 now and i got him the new Generations Legends Commanders or whatever they are called for Christmas and he loves those)

Seems like there's a middle ground that can be pleasing to everyone without being overly frustrating or overly simplified...

 

And to be honest toys designed simpler is not a big deal if they are designed to be accurate and simple. Yeah there will be compromise. I just dont want upscaled cyberverse is all.

 

That's all I needed to see.

 

I think the real question is: Why does anyone want Bayformer toys to begin with?

 

Because as hard as it is to believe, some people do watch those movies.

 

 

And like the toys, but shhhhhhh.

 

No complicated toys here. We are the new toys, and we are only good for one thing... GARBAGE!!!

 

Well said Single Elephant Machine

i think theres been one point missed here. and FAR be it from me to dispute the child psychologists on the board who know what children do and dont like. the point of simple transformations and gimmick lines like this picture, is that they can go from vehicle to robot quick. because kids dont give a fuck about transformation, they want to pretend the robots are real. they dont want to spend 25 minutes transforming a leader, they want it dont in 25 seconds so they can go on imagining a battle.

If your problem with this is that its simple to transform then for godsake go buy some of the earlier movie stuff, support the lines that shelf warmed. but since most of you will shit on the film and the toyline please exorcise your god given right to shut the fuck up and stop making yourselves look so world class foolish that a lot of people are just LAUGHING AT YOU

 

Could be any of the new lines they're introducing, but my first guess is a large Power Battler.

 

You never fail Tuna  

 

WHAT!!!! You read the article?  

Simple doesn't always mean it's going to a bad figure. It really depends on the engineering. You can have a simple transformation yet still be an amazing figure in both modes if done correctly.

Simple also depends on the person's perception as to what is simple and what is advanced.

I think FansProject's Smart Robin is a simple transformation. It's remarkably easy, but really well thought out. Same with Quad U and Code. It really comes down to how well the figures are engineered IMHO.

 

A lot of animated was simple to transform and thats a great line, one of the best imho

 

I don't know...ask one of the gazillion people who bought ROTF toys and made it the most successful toyline in the 30 year history of the franchise  

 

I don't know why we're even talking about this, as it's common knowledge that Hasbro went out of business after releasing Twin Twist and Top Spin, and the over-simplified designs of those toys resulted in a generation of idiot kids who couldn't even tie their own shoes, let alone grasp stringing a discussion together over a global information network.

 

If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't.

I'm reading these responses like it's the only toys being made ever....like a huge flaming ball of plastic is headed towards earth and everyone is scrambling for safety. Relax.

 

Thank you. I don't have a problem with simplifying transformations as far too many transformers are way to complex for their target audience. That being said, simplifying the transformation doesn't mean you have to simplify the aesthetic of the toy as well. A transformer can have a really simple transformation and still be well articulated and highly detailed.

 

Bunch of grown ass men losing sleep over a piece of plastic.

 

Because they're Transformers fans.

 

Is this news? The simplification started right after RotF, and increased from there. Even the stuff that isn't supposed to be simplified, like Generations, still is in comparison to earlier product. You either dig that or you don't. I don't, so I don't buy TFs anymore. It's fine, I have other interests. Rising costs and a design aesthetic that's no longer for me. I'm not the target for this stuff anymore. Beast Wars 30th Anniversary stuff is the nicest TF product I've seen in a long time, so I probably WILL pick those up, however.