Has any medium covered the lost G1 history between Season 2 and '86 Movie?

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  1. Recall

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    I've always wondered about why no one, be it IDW or a video game or even a TV show existed that filled in the 20 year story gap between the end of season 2 of G1 and the 86 Movie?

    Wouldn't there be endless potential to create stories about well known characters and give the season 3 cast back stories? Why has nothing ever been done? Or did something happen which I don't know about?

    The marvel comics made their own timeline and we sorta had Scramble City but nothing else. Who is Hot Rod? How did Ultra Magnus become close friends with Prime? Why is Springer so awesome? Did Grimlock survive something awful to see his personality change? 20 years is a long time...
     
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    Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate - Transformers Wiki

    Here you go! This actually covers the mid-1990s part of the 20 year gap.

    The Transformers (Madman) - Transformers Wiki

    This story also continues the 20 year gap, but happens in 2001 chronologically.

    The upcoming Transformers Devastation could happen before the movie as well, but probably chronologically after the Madman comic.
     
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    The madman comic seems like the right idea. Did no other comic try to fill the gap at all? Seems crazy.

    Thanks for the links :) 
     
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    The TFcon 2007 comic and script reading happened during this time period.

    Set in the year 2004, Metroplex construction was being finalized. Ultra Magnus was on Moon Base 1 when the Decepticons attacked so Prowl took command to defend the city.

    Michael Bell reprised his roles of Prowl, Swoop, & Bombshell.
     
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    Sadly, I checked and nothing else, aside from the Madman comic, and possibly the upcoming Transformers Devastation game, don't cover the time period between Season 2 and 1986 movie.

    Though the Japanese cartoon does have stuff in between Season 2 and the movie.

    Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan) - Transformers Wiki

    Edit: Ninja'd by JLvatron, somewhat.
     
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    Wasn't Dreamwave's G1 series supposed to be between S2 and the movie?
     
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    The first Dreamwave miniseries (Prime Directive) can sort of fit in the gap, but the rest of it is incompatible with the G1 Cartoon continuity.
     
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    Is there any good extensive fan fiction covering it? (something like James Roberts' Eugenesis)
     
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    Besides Battle of the Star Gate, there's also Robotmasters, in the Japanese G1 continuity.

    And speaking of Battle of the Star Gate, Japanese G1 also used it to retcon Car Robots into the same continuity, which takes place in 2001. However, BOTSG is the flimsiest of evidence for it, since there's too many inconsistencies for it to work (i.e. nobody knows who Transformers are in Car Robots, which wouldn't make sense if Optimus Prime, Megatron, et. al were around since 1984.)
     
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    Oh, yeah! Forgot Car Robots and Robotmasters, though I only count the online manga, due to it being the only version of the story to be completed.
     
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    Ah, ok. I swore off G1 remake comics entirely after the first atrocious miniseries.
     
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    Transformers: The Lost Seasons has done a good job of covering some of that period.
     
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    The tricky thing is matching the style and feel of the original cartoon, and not slipping anything in from the other versions that would radically change it. While I love it, so many people seem to feel the cartoon was just cheesy or stupid, and thus it's tricky to avoid just turning it into a mockery or parody. You've got to match the original show.

    We've been getting comics continuing or filling in for some old shows. Like Batman 66. And for a long time you said that you liked that, the Batfans would look at you like something scraped off the bottom of a shoe. But you can't do something like have the Joker take cues from Heath Ledger's version. He has to be like Ceaser Romero's version. Otherwise it changes the whole dynamic.

    And with Transformers it'd be so easy to fall into that. We see it with Furman using some of comic Ratbat's personality. Now granted unlike show Ratbat the comic version had personality, but still... You need to match the style of the episodes. Not some long cohesive arc about the war, but the 80's saturday morning action adventure plots. Not Megatron launching an offensive that brutally kills all the bots we don't see in the movie. Megatron digging up tetrion crystals at the south pole to reverse the earths magnetic field, and harness that energy. Or Starscream building a base in Chicago to take over the human mob the the autobots only find out about because Tracks was at the wrong mall opening. Without being "hurr, durr this is dumb."
     
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    That's actually pretty good. Thanks!
     
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    The problem with that is the only bot's in to get an origin were the Stunticon, Aerialbots and Combaticons. Every other new toy that Hasbro need to get some air time, just showed up and everybot acted like they were there from day one.
     
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    So true....so true. I hate to admit it but Shane McCarthy could actually pull it off...sorta.
     
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    the Dinobots,Insceticon,Skyfire, all got origin/introduction episodes.
     
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    I don't see how that is a problem. It doesn't have anything to do with matching the tone of the original show. What I'm talking about is keeping the characterization the same, and not making it darker, grittier, more mature, whatever. Without just mocking it.

    There is no reason why you couldn't do missing episodes to fill in where those characters came from. For example all the guys who started showing up mid season two, you can say that the Autobots were a search party looking for the Ark, and the cons persued them, and they all crashed on mars. Some probe finds this, the bots and cons make a race to try and reactivate their comrades first. An episode where Omega arrives on earth? Easy to explain since he's a spacegoing bot who's been looking for the Constructicons. An actual origin episode for the Protectobots and Defensor? Yeah that's easy to fit in.
     
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    I like this thread!

    Cosmos origin episode? You could say he lost the search party, and picked up a transmission from Optimus Prime that they were being exiled from Earth and that's how Cosmos shows up in Megatrons Master Plan. Yeah, insert eps FTW!