Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Lucas35, Jan 18, 2019.
God damn, this is still just fucking horrible.
Since when did Leader-1 have an afro?
This looks awesome.
That's not Leader-1, it's Spay-C.
All this shows really is that GoBots have never ever had a single set style or tone, everything ranges from kiddie friendly fair to graphic horror sci-fi, entirely based only on personal interpretation. If anything, I believe these examples only serve to validate a creator like Scioli as a great fit for GoBots.
My eyes are literally bleeding.
Literally? You should probably head to a hospital, stat.
To quote the Dude: "Thats just, like, your opinion, man."
@SMOG and @Focksbot address the tone of the book succinctly. It's deliberately "bad" because it's seeking to refer to and invoke a time when modern comic storytelling was at it's most primitive. Whether or not it's subjectively good, bad, or otherwise has nothing to do with whether it qualifies as retro, or has retro appeal. He's going for tonal accuracy.
To clarify, oftentimes, when we say "retro", we mean "it looks old, but it has elements of modern style/sensibilities". Scioli isn't shooting for that. He's burying the damn needle all the way in the other direction. It's supposed to be terrible, campy, pulp-style fare from the 40's, not the 70's. It's supposed to evoke that old school, very early Kirby era look and dialogue (as opposed to that New Gods stuff he's usually famous for):
It's a callback - an homage to the very first comics being applied to an IP with modern roots and theoretically a point of discussion in and of itself: 40's style art applied to an 80's IP in the late 10's - early 20's.
So, whether anybody likes it or not doesn't remove the retro label and/or the retro appeal. Now, if you don't like the primitive style of storytelling/art, that's cool. I don't like it either. Frankly, I think the dialogue looks like it was written by a 3rd grader that ODed on sleeping pills and the art hurts my brain - but that's just my opinion. I also don't like 16th century Realist Flemish art, but my wife does.
It's art. It's subjective.
This book is fantastic. I love the style and presentation.
I really liked the concept for this book. Was really looking forward to it. I opened the first issue and thought, "Oh, cool, it's starting as literally a middle school kid drawing a comic book, and in a couple of pages they'll pull out to the real world and we'll see how accurate to real life the kid's imagination is in this world." But then the art never changes. And I could get around that, but the dialogue/writing and composition are awful as well. Overpacked pages with terrible flow from one to the other, often from panel to panel. I have tried 3 times to read the first issue, and I just can't get through more than the first couple of pages. It's super rare that I'm so disappointed in a mini series I drop it from my pull list after one issue, but within only a few months I've done it with two IDW titles (their Bubba Ho Tep comic is garbage, too).
Thats not Leader-1. Thats Space-C.
I have to be honest, i don't know who's being sarcastic anymore...
Tom Scioli is choosing to make the book look like this. It's absolutely a stylistic choice.
I think it's the dialogue/plot AND the art that's getting to people.
Old school campy dialogue isn't for everyone. I grew up on a steady diet of Z-Grade "Attack of the Eye People" crap so I can at least appreciate it for what it's supposed to be (even if I personally find it abhorrent), but most people are used to comics being these massive, Byzantine things with modern writing styles and super-slick, highly polished art.
It's kind of like looking back into an old cookbook and realizing people used to eat this:
It's not going to kill you, but it's easy to see why not many people want it.
The art rebinds more of PBF more that retro 80's comics.
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The scale is killing me!
missed chance to really go somehwere different with Gobots, and really have fun with it.. this is just silly.. and this bad 80s art isnt cute anymore nor was it ever this bad.
It's not 80's art though. Everything about comics (art/writing/layout) was way ahead of this by the 80's. This is more akin to 40's-50's level.
Why do you tell lies on the internet? Half of those pictures that aren't Scioli are fan art or Robo Machine. GoBots fiction almost exclusively follows the cartoon style, that booklet packed with Zod being the only counterexample that immediately comes to mind.
Although I _am_ glad Scioli didn't hijack the HB style for this!
I didn't provide the pictures.
I think the point remains, though, that they do show that straight up Challenge of the GoBots isn't the only way you have to do fiction for these toys.
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