Generations Selects WFC-GS27 Galvatron (G1 toy deco)

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    Lets not sugarcoat anything. Here are the facts that we know:

    1. Pete from Botcon says that Funpub chose not to use Nerf gun Megatron in 2008 because it did not have a vehicle alt mode.

    2. There was no voyager (or larger) scale G1 aesthetic Megatron with a tank alt mode in 2008 for Funpub to use.

    3. Energon Megatron is a Galvatron homage aestheticly and Takara gave it a G1 Galvatron deco in their Superlink line.

    4. Funpub had to base the comic on physical toys available for the convention. (Not on animation or artwork)

    These are all indisputable facts.

    Now lets throw in some pretty popular opinions:

    1. Traditional mirror universes tend to stick to inverted colors. We saw it in Star Trek, Super Friends, and the evil clones of the Gargoyles. Not to mention Nemesis Prime.

    2. Tradtional G1 aesthetic portrays Megatron with his G1 robot mode likeness, not Galvatron's G1 robot mode likeness.

    3. Shattered Glass may have been ahead of its time back in 2008. Thirteen years is a pretty long time to test it in the mainstream collectors market. Why not go with the formula (for Megatron's aesthetic) that always works time and time again ?

    Im more inclined to think of the extra parts to give him a jet alt mode as an Easter egg. Dont act like Megatron hasnt had air modes before outside of Shattered Glass. (2007 Bayverse, TF Prime, TF Animated) The fact that they chose Seige Megatron mold instead of the Kingdom Galvatron mold is a good indicator that they wanted to go a more G1 route. In my opinion, they gave it the jet alt mode parts so that it would appeal to both old and new TF fans. In my opinion, I also believe that Hasbro felt a more traditional Megatron aesthetic would fare better with new fans than trying to explain why he looks like Galvatron but is called Megatron. Shattered Glass is confusing enough to a newbie fan without throwing in the homaging of obselete repurposing criterias. In my opinion, Funpub would have probably gone this route back in 2008 if more G1 style aesthetic molds had been available at the time. Im inclined to believe Hasbro is just playing it safe with Shattered Glass. This probably doesnt appeal to old school Funpub fans, but its more likely to bring in new fans if they reboot Shattered Glass to be more in line with the WFC/Generations universe rather than an old convention nobody under 30 remembers.
     
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    You keep going on and on about how Fun Pub chose their molds. I've never disputed any of that. If your preference isn't to follow that model, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that, for SG Megatron, specifically, I prefer what Fun Pub did to some idea that we have to do a Megatron mold now that we're not beholden to the same limitations. Why are you still pushing so hard on this?
     
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    I know I like that they look different than G1. Yes, it was because of the molds available, but it also helped differentiate them from the originals. That’s why I prefer they use the FP versions if possible.
     
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    This is the weirdest argument I’ve seen in a while. Railing against the “corporate” machinations of a small fan convention in defense of Hasbro. Asking us to think of the children, who desperately need their own Shattered Glass that’s somehow more slavish to G1 and less so to the SG Con ten years ago because…
     
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    the whole point of SG is that the characters aren't their original incarnations. And, if G1 gets slavish accuracy, why not SG?
     
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    I would certainly add to that, original SG (for whatever "corporate" reasons one might wish to discuss) wasn't strictly an "anti-G1" (perhaps even more specifically "anti-Classics") continuity (my terms, of course, but I hope they communicate). It's definitely the case that most of the references were to the G1 versions, but there were some non-G1 references, as well (I'm of course not counting the fact that most non-G1 continuities are heavy in references to G1).

    That said, since it was posited by the end of Fun Pub's run that there were other SG universes out there, it's hardly a problem if the new SG that Hasbro's doing wants to be something different. And Rated X's main point that Hasbro may well see greater potential in appealing to a wider array of fans by sticking closer to the G1 template isn't even one I have much disagreement with. I just don't see the need to think of Megatron and Galvatron as such distinctly different individuals that SG Megatron "should" use a Megatron mold rather than a Galvatron mold (given the original SG Megatron's use of a mold that was, essentially, just a smaller version of Energon Megatron... called "Galvatron" in Japan, of course... I'm pretty happy to consider all molds for the archetype as "valid").

    But, ultimately, I'm okay that the new SG Blurr looks more like G1 Blurr than Cybertron Blurr, for example.

    I do think they made a less-than-ideal call for Goldbug... not so much that I think he should be a sports car, but that mold doesn't demonstrate what makes a Goldbug (any Goldbug?) different than the Bumblebee that presumably preceded it.

    And, for better or worse, SG Starscream's opting for the Siege mold demonstrates at least some desire to resemble the original SG Starscream, or else they could have used a jet mode more in keeping with the original G1 look. I'm not too particular, either way. I'm just glad this version of the Siege mold FINALLY doesn't have Cosmic Rust all over it!
     
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    Have no clue what youre talking about or what an MPAA is. Maybe youre mistaking me for someone else who participates in group functions on this site. I roll solo.
     
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    X-rated movies became NC-17 movies in the 90’s.
     
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    ‘Motions Picture Association Audience’ Ratings joke. One they apparently made an entire throwaway account, just today to make said joke


    Anyway, I’m excited for Galvatron. Does the Matrix come off the chain? I’ve meant to ask someone about that.
     
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    No, it's moulded as one piece. I guess you can clip the chain off the matrix, but then you'll have to paint the base plastic to match.
     
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    Who cares about movies bro ? I got that nickname over 20 years ago because im always on some 2 live crew type s**t. Am I the only one on here who doesn't have a robot screen name ? Sheesh....
     
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    Dont know anything about movie ratings lol. Galvatron is bad ass, youll love him. The matrix does not come off the chain though.
     
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    The joke was his name was Rated NC17 and yours is Rated X. That’s all. I didn’t pay attention that it was a new account and was likely staged by him…
     
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    Kingdom Galvatron's Matrix does in fact come off the chain, I've removed mine a few times. It is a tight fit though.
     
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    I hear ya. I dont even look at the screen names. I just hit reply and speak my mind. If buddy wants to make a parody account to troll me, good for him. Im living rent free inside his mind. Where's the toilet ?
     
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    Really? *goes check*
    ...
    Ok, it's two pieces, I don't know why I didn't look at all that closely. But, GOOD NIGHT, it was super tight! After a bit of wiggling, I was able to pop it off.

    I've never been more happy to be wrong, I now love Galvatron all the more!

    Yeah, I just preordered this version today.
     
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    Made a whole new account just for a joke. That's dedication
     
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    What y'all think

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    I think that's just one Tim Heada barbarian axe away from being a dead-on IDW Galvatron! :thumb 

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    Oh, you mean the order I just placed on ebay earlier?
     
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