Noticing that we don’t have review threads for the Seacons yet so I’ll start one for Turtler/Snaptrap. In short, he’s pretty great - especially if you owned the original. Huge nostalgia here. Color scheme is spot on. He comes with a ton of weapons and parts, some of which are obviously necessary for King Poseidon. They’re mostly great - the sword and the rifle are both awesome. The only possible drawback is that there fewer 5mm ports in these POTP figures than in the Siege line and hence fewer configurations. While the staggered Seacon release (and delays) are annoying on a certain level, it’s actually nice here because it gives me some time to appreciate the base robots instead of just slapping together the combiner. It’s a good robot overall. Ankle tilts are a little loose on mine, and he can’t reach across his own chest because of its bulk but that’s fine. Turtle mode is obviously weaker, especially from a side angle. I’ll post some more pics later when I get a chance. Here are some of robot mode and in box.
So were these only available as pre-orders, or will there be more available later (outside the scalper market)?
I mean, my personal opinion is that it was a mess. It was a limited time preorder. Nothing else has been announced. I got mine from Oh myprimus. I have the next two coming from there too, then Pulse for the final two. With that said, there has been talk of a “gift box” type bundle and/or a recolor.
Thanks. Been out of the game a long time. Always loved the Seacons (have the originals... somewhere), and I wouldn't mind an updated version. At the same time, my wallet would be happy sitting it out.
I mean absolutely no offense to anyone who likes this (I know I've been on the other end of this thought more times then I care to think about), but this figure really seems like a mess. I can understand the desire to keep costs down, but I think he really should've had a new mold rather than trying to fit an existing mold to the character in this case.
Love all the accessories this came with and the colors. I actually think I like the turtle mode better than the bot; not digging how far out the turtle head and legs protrude on his chest but I bet it is better in hand. Combined mode is going to be sick - they nailed it with his cannon and chestplate. Congrats on the score dude.
Prelude: He is Turtler, the villain in a half-shell. The grown-up alien robot turtle. Possibly a ninja, too, he did star in a Japanese anime, after all. He leads, while his fellows are machines. Non-sentinent ones at that. Anyway, he is Turtler, the leader in green, doing anything he can to be extra mean. Okay, enough turtle references. He is Turtler, leader of the Seacons, torso of King Poseidon. Let’s see what he’s made of. Tonight we dine on turtle soup! Robot Mode: Turtler is a remold of Power of the Primes Hun-Gurrr (who is an very extensive remold of Combiner Wars Silverbolt). He is a very nicely articulated robot in general, though his knees are a bit strange and take getting used to. His chest is comprised of the front legs and head of his turtle mode and he has got two big cannons on his back, which can also be removed and used as hand weapons. Speaking of weapons, unlike Hun-Gurrr, Turtler comes with a whole bunch of them. Apart from the aforementioned back cannons he comes with a big rifle, a sword, and a shield, the latter being the rear half of his turtle shell. He can also use the feet of the combiner mode as guns if you want. He is a very good likeless to his G1 incarnation Snap Trap (the Western name of Turtler), the two are clearly meant to be the same guy. While there is nothing objectively wrong with this robot mode, I can’t really warm up to it properly. The robot is a bit too lean compared to the far bulkier G1 toy in my mind and while the load of weapons offers quite a bit of playability, I just find it boring somehow. So to sum it up, an average robot mode overall. Sadly it’s Turtler’s best mode. Alternate Mode: Now in theory Turtler becomes a robotic turtle. In practice, though, he becomes a combiner torso with tiny little front legs and a tiny little turtle had. Seriously, the 30 years older Snap Trap looks so much better in turtle mode, it boggles the mind. Turtler’s turtle mode looks more like an afterthought on this figure, not a designed beast mode. It would probably have worked better if they had used the robot arms as forelegs and given him some extra hind legs… maybe. I am not sure. Anyway, the turtle mode basically looks like a block on four legs, the forelegs being vastly smaller than the hind legs. The turtle can be given pretty much all of Turtler’s extra weapons, more or less turning it into a tank, but it still doesn’t look all that great. The only way to make this turtle mode somewhat cool is to give him extra limbs (basically turning him into a four-legged combiner). He still doesn’t look like a turtle, mind you, but at least he looks cool and scary then (see picture below). So overall: forget about the turtle mode. The designers did, too, I fear. Combiner Mode: Turtler becomes the torso of King Poseidon (aka Piranacno). More on that once I’ve completed the combiner. Remarks: The Seacons were the red shirts of the Masterforce cartoon, endless hordes of non-sentient robot drones that were regularly destroyed by the good guys. Led by Turtler, the only sentient robot among them. He never did transform into robot mode in the anime, but he was actually among the more menacing of the Destrons. Sadly the Generations Selects figure representing him is not particularly great. The robot mode is okay, if nothing more than that, but the turtle mode is rather bad and doesn’t really stand up to the over 30 years older G1 figure. You do need him as the torso of King Poseidon, of course, which is pretty much the only reason to get him. So bottom line: buy him to complete King Poseidon, but don’t expect much from him as a stand-alone figure. Rating: C- Source: Transformers-Universe.com
