Generations Selects Black Zarak Revealed!

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Acteon, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. allew

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    Using the F12 to look at source page and then Control F and typing in "inventory" it looks like 2425 sold of 5000 on Pulse, seemingly already selling better than Takara Legends Grand Maximus back in the day.
     
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    Well. Masterforce is technically a different continuity than US G1, so you could argue that Blackzarak is a different character due to him being from an alternate universe.

    US G1 Scorponok never became BlackZarak
    Masterforce Scorponok did.

    like if a version of Megatron never became Galvatron but then have that Megatron and a Galvatron meet. (which has happened before) Not the same character IMO.

    Or just go strictly go with Cartoon continuity where they never say one way or another, its just simply never mentioned, which is why its assumed he's a separate character in the cartoon. its never mentioned at all. All the other sources just try to clarify it.
    (like how as far as I'm concerned Blitzwing the the BB film isn't Blitzwing because his name is never mentioned in the film itself. so he's "unnamed seeker #26")

    Regardless. I say you preorder him anyway. its nearly an entire year before he ships so you have plenty of time to cancel if you change your mind. I like to preorder things as impulse so i dont miss out, and THEN make a decision and cancel if I decide I dont want it. rather than not preorder and miss out entirely.
     
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  3. Vector Oracle

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    WHAT

    THEY ACTUALLY MADE BLACK ZARAK

    I’M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW, YOU GUYS

     
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    2492 now, and this guy has only been revealed 5 hours ago.
     
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    I am in complete agreement with you. I only bought the new Takara and Hasbro Fortess Maximus for the Headmasters ( big and small ) that came with them. That was the only part that was superior IMVHO

    and yeah My houses Forteess Maximus is the g1 version and its standing with Earthrise Scorponok right now in my boys room too. They look great standing next to each other.

    I just wish I could fit in the legends/titans returns headmaster head on it.
     
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    The problem right now is that we don't know how many people are ordering Black Zarak. Within the immediate Transformers community, he'll be popular. But once you get beyond that...woof! Unicron at least has gravitas beyond the TF community. Black Zarak...not so much. It'll be interesting if he reaches 4000-5000 units.

    EDIT: just saw the post above that he's half sold on Pulse. That's good. probably means we'll hit 5000-6000 between them and the other retailers.
     
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    Unexpected move
    An employee that I actually know the name of + anonymous source said it won’t happen 100%

    super left field move but at least Hasbro woke up and chose the easy way to make money
     
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    I bought Grand Maximus and he is still in his shipper, been waiting for this day. He will be released when Black Zarak arrives
     
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    Preordered and paid for couldn\'t afford the original but this one will do just fine!!
     
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    The Master Files are canon to the anime.
    Master File No, 1 - Transformers Wiki (tfwiki.net)
     
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    So now that we’re getting Black Roritchi’s master and Grand Maximus has been released in Legends, it’d be nice if we got Masterforce Cog next year. We already have the Siege mold lying around.
     
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    In some universes, Megatron and Galvatron aren't the same guy. Including the original toy canon which showed them fighting together.

    Either way, Black Zarak looks cooler, so I'm glad I'm only blowing $160 for one deco of this mold.
     
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    The US and Japanese Scorponoks were already nearly different characters anyway.

    And if nothing else, you can think of this as Devil Z and not Scorponok.

    (I'm helping)
     
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    I haven’t read through the thread. As some one who knows nothing about Black Zarak character wise besides seeing his original toy.

    Can some one explain to me why his headmaster unit has a sweet remolded chest and eyepatch face? Is it a cartoon or comic thing?

    Regardless this thing looks awesome and I can’t wait to have it in my hands.
     
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    Technically yes, however thanks to how TF fiction categorizes its alternate universes. Even if the events are exactly the same, due to it being a written work instead of animation it can be considered a separate reality.
     
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    If this announcement tells me anything, it's that Fort Max needs a proper update, so his eventual repaint into Grand Max would be a much better figure to go with this guy.

    I already have Legends Fort and Grand, but my god they're so obsolete. :lol 
     
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    It's meant to directly supplement the derivative work. It is NOT a separate reality, nor treated as such by the fandom.

    You can regard it as a separate universe in your personal headspace if you want to. I know I do that with some other materials.
     
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    I don’t necessarily need the whole mold , but that head is pretty sweet.
     
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    Its a toy thing specific to this figure i think. Blackzarak never head a "headmaster" it was a fake decoy head in fiction.

    I think its a reference to the idea that the Scorponok Trasector was destroyed, but Zarak himself survived. Despite Zarak himself never having anything to do with any version of BlackZarak. but this toy has one, so they had to do something with it.
     
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    This is interesting. Everybody knew he was coming. I might get this, since Gold Plastic Syndrome has been cured. 
     
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