Generations: Beast Wars - Speculation

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Verno, Jan 19, 2018.

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Your Ideal Line

  1. Updates for just the Season 1 Show Characters

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  2. Updates for ALL the Show Characters and Designs from all 3 Seasons

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  3. Updates for just the Original figures

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  4. Updates for ALL the figures from Originals through to TM2s

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  1. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    Being a War for Cybertron, I could see Tragetmasters being the underlying gimmick for the entire trilogy, but each line in it has a different theme:

    Line 1 - Siege - Cybertronian Alt-Modes
    Line 2 - Guerilla Warfare - Beast Alt-Modes (both robotic and organic)
    Line 3 - Insert Name Here - Earth Alt-Modes
     
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    Yes? No?
     
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  3. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    I wouldn't buy it personally, but it suits him.

    In a crazier theory, who remembers the Siege on Cybertron box set from Titans Return? Who remembers that it had a Beast Wars logo on the side of it for some mysterious reason? Perhaps it was a mistake, or perhaps it was a hint that after the Siege come the beasts...
     
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    I like the idea of pre-BW BW figures like botcon and tfcc have done in the past. I’d definitely get a figure like that
     
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    Wheeljackie He will set us free

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    Give me Dinobot and Megatron as scientifically accurate Dino's. If they made Dinobot a feathered Utaraptor that would be so cool.
     
  6. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    Credit to Seibertron for the image.

    The most important part of said image is the Ark.

    It's the age-old story: Things are so dire on Cybertron that the Autobots up and leave in search of resources, they're attacked by the Decepticons, crash on Earth and go into stasis.

    What important events unfold while they're in stasis?

    If you don't know the answer to that question, you're in the wrong thread.
     
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    ssjkazer mr dyslexia

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    im picking beast wars will be stage 3 of this trilogy, it would make sense toy line wise, this line covers micromasters missing season 3 or 4 characters and season 1 characters, set 2 will have G2 toys this makes sense as they where just after micromasters, then (drum roll please) what was after G2, beast wars, they have been following a clear line down the track and to be honest its a good line to follow.
     
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    While I agree there's an excellent chance the third leg of this trilogy will be Beast Wars, my fear is it'll be a pre-Earth Beast Wars and all the characters will have Cybertronian vehicle modes. And that, to me, robs the very thing from Beast Wars that makes it unique.

    I dunno, I guess it could be interesting, a new take on the arrival of Maximals and Predacons on the scene. I just don't know how excited I can get about wheels on these guys.
     
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    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    If they do Beast Wars, they'll do them as beasts. There's no point reinventing them as vehicles as it alienates the fans. Beast Wars fans won't want them because that's not their iconic look. G1 fans won't want them because they're not part of G1.

    There's 35 years of iconography in this franchise. From Hasbro's point of view, you can't buy that sort of thing. It can only be built over time.
     
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    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    It's a simple question with a not-so-simple answer. Here's my take:

    Beast Wars and the larger Beast Era is an anomaly. It doesn't fit with the larger 35 year history of Transformers, which is primarily re-imaginings of G1, IE, Optimus Prime versus Megatron.

    The irony is that Beast Wars started out as exactly that, but in the eventual crafting of this Optimus Primal and Megatron into new characters, it became non-G1.

    The Beast Era perhaps overstayed its welcome in the end, with Beast Machines failing to deliver TransTech, which would have ushered in a new hybrid of G1 and Beast Era characters in the one universe and time period. Because we never saw it, it's become a case of us or them -- never the twain shall meet.

    Transformers is essentially running as business as usual if the last 35 years is anything to go by, and Siege is exactly what we should expect to see. Because Beast Wars is tied to this period of 'other', that's how it remains in the minds of a lot of people.
     
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    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    The Toy Hype USA interview with John Warden is very intriguing indeed.
     
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    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    I've tweaked my guess lists:

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    A big, winged feline with cannons is too good a mold not to release twice.
     
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    ssjkazer mr dyslexia

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    lets see beasts from the beast era that share something in common with remaining beasts that didnt get toys in the prime trilogey theres no mastake why some characters where skipped.

    Apeface = easy transmetal Optimusprimal (which would be nice with potp primal for updated toys of all 3 forms)
    snapdragon = easy transmetal megatron
    doubledealer = possible tigerhawk
    carnivac = easy transmetal 2 cheetor
    snarler = easy razorbeast
    chainclaw = easy polarclaw
    carnivac = easy wolfang


    im not sure who else there really is but using stage 2 as g2 repaints of seige then they could toss in these pretender beasts, which will help set up easily for beast wars in stage 3
     
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    Deluxes:

    Wave 1:
    • 2x Cheetor
    • 2x Optimus Primal
    • 2x Tarantulas
    • 2x Terrorsaur
    Wave 2:
    • 2x Inferno
    • 2x Rattrap
    • 2x Scorponok
    • 2x Waspinator
    Wave 3:
    • 2x Airazor (heavy Terrorsaur retool)
    • 2x Blackarachnia (Tarantulas retool)
    • 2x Silverbolt
    • 2x Tigatron (Cheetor retool)
    Wave 4:
    • 2x Quickstrike
    • 2x Transmetal Cheetor
    • 2x Transmetal Rattrap
    • 2x Transmetal Tarantulas
    Wave 5:
    • 2x Buzzsaw (Waspinator repaint)
    • 2x Laserbeak (Terrorsaur repaint)
    • 2x Lio Convoy
    • 2x Shadow Panther (Tigatron repaint)
    Wave 6:
    • 2x Nemesis Lio Convoy (Lio Convoy repaint)
    • 2x Ravage (Transmetal Cheetor retool)
    • 2x Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia (Transmetal Tarantulas retool)
    • 2x Transmetal 2 Cheetor (heavy Cheetor retool)

    Voyagers:

    Wave 1:
    • 1x Dinobot
    • 1x Megatron
    Wave 2:
    • 2x Rhinox
    Wave 3:
    • 1x Transmetal Megatron
    • 1x Transmetal Optimus Primal
    Wave 4:
    • 1x Depth Charge
    • 1x Rampage
    Wave 5:
    • 2x Transmetal 2 Dinobot

    Leaders:

    Wave 1:
    • 2x Transmetal 2 Megatron
    Wave 2:
    • 2x Tigerhawk
    Wave 3:
    • 2x Galvatron (Transmetal 2 Megatron retool)
     
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    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    A 6 wave line would be fantastic. So much more room to fit bots in.
     
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    Everyone seems to agree on Transmetal 2 Megatron as a Leader class. I got the original for Christmas that year, ton of fun until I accidentally broke the hip hinge years later. Having an upgrade to replace him would be nice.

    i personally wasn't all that big a fan of Transmetals though.
     
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    I love the lineups for Beast Wars but I would not want Black Arachnia to be a retool of Tarantulas since the bodies are so different and I don’t want to relive how bad the original Black Arach figure was.
     
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    honestly i know people want main cast characters, but i would like them to look at every character that suffers from gps from beast wars
     
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    Wheeljackie He will set us free

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    Here's my idea

    Legends Wave 1
    - Rattrap
    - Spittor
    - Razorbeast
    - Iguanus

    Deluxe Wave 1
    - Cheetor
    - Terrorsaur
    - Waspinator
    - Blackarachnia

    Voyager Wave 1
    - Rhinox
    - Scorponok

    Leader Wave 1
    - Optimus Primal
    - Megatron

    Legends Wave 2
    - Airazor
    - Snapper
    - Armordillo
    - Insecticon

    Deluxe Wave 2
    - Tigatron
    - Tarantulas
    - Wolfang
    - Buzzclaw

    Voyager Wave 2
    - Dinobot
    - Polarclaw
     
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    ^ that's a very solid line-up, though I'd put Megatron as a Voyager and Optimus Primal as a Deluxe. He wasn't much bigger than Cheetor on the show.
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