Generations: Beast Wars - Speculation

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Verno, Jan 19, 2018.

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Your Ideal Line

  1. Updates for just the Season 1 Show Characters

    64 vote(s)
    15.6%
  2. Updates for ALL the Show Characters and Designs from all 3 Seasons

    223 vote(s)
    54.5%
  3. Updates for just the Original figures

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  4. Updates for ALL the figures from Originals through to TM2s

    108 vote(s)
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  1. Ikkstakk

    Ikkstakk Well-Known Member

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    I think they're bigger. I think they should be bigger, they're a tank and an A-10, they shouldn't be the same size as a Beetle. That shot from Five Faces of Darkness, I consider that one the animation error. It's from frigging AKOM for one thing.
     
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  2. Fort Max

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    They've already made bigger versions of Powerglide, Seaspray and Warpath if that's what you want.
     
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  3. Ikkstakk

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    Sure, I don't even really care about the new Warpath, that 2011 Deluxe still holds up today. That's still the definitive Warpath for me. But I'd love a Deluxe Powerglide who can stand equal height with the carbots.

    And the TR Seaspray is fine. I don't care all that much about Seaspray no matter what size he is, really.
     
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  4. Yoshimon7

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    I agree that they should be bigger. They easily could be taller than optimus. I also believe that soundwave and megatron should be tiny and that astrotrain should be way bigger than either optimus or megatron. That is if we're looking at real world scale of their alt modes.

    This is obviously not the case and I think you know why. Mass shifting. Why are warpath and powerglide minibot height even though they're a tank and aircraft? Mass shifting. Why are megatron, soundwave perceptor blaster not tiny in bot mode? Mass shifting.

    I think the biggest reason for the height discrepancy is that there is no official height chart with the s2 minibots. (to my knowledge)

    This discussion has made me curious tho. What did hasbro/takara decide for warpath's height in the upcoming kingdom figure?

    Wanna give any insight on the height of kingdom warpath @Apollux ? Is he like cliffjumper deluxe height or standard carbot deluxe height?

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    Hrmmm, what's the rough percentage with shields?
     
  6. Pixelmaster

    Pixelmaster >implying toys are good

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    ER has 40 ish molds and I can recall around 7 molds that have a shield
     
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  7. Dinobot Snarl

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    Yeah it's just that our other source also emphasized the shield trend, so I think we might be looking at more like 70% of deluxes.

    @Apollux
    Is the shield technique limited to Deluxe or will we be seeing Voyager and above with the Shields?
     
  8. Apollux

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    I believe that could be due to that promotional material being created prior to the wave 1 being pulled forward.

    I'm not sure off the top of my head but I don't think there are as many as in ER. Mostly deluxes I believe.
     
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  9. TriBlurr

    TriBlurr Who am I?

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    @Apollux

    Can you say if the G1 lineup for Kingdom has any later year characters? Guys like of the same obscurity level as Spinister or Snapdragon. Or is it mostly guys from the season 1/2 and the movie?
     
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    My newly acquired Generations Warpath is safe then, because this will be an easy pass now.
     
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    Well I'm not a fan of this method, in the case of Cliffjumper / Bumblebee it looks like the right decision as both are excellent in every respect. I'll go to bat for those two. Arcee not so much. But if it's a dense deluxe like Cliffjumper you might be shooting yourself in the foot by automatically deciding not to like it.
     
  12. Apollux

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    Not to my knowledge, but always a chance with selects/exclusives :) 
     
  13. Rojixus

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    Someone at Hasbro apparently agrees with you because Astrotrain has now been consistently depicted as a giant across three separate continuities.
     
  14. Ikkstakk

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    I just want to be able to recreate this heartwarming moment
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  15. Apollux

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    Hopefully you will be, but I'm not sure on exact dimensions, just saw prototype photos without anything for scale.
     
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  16. kaijuguy19

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    On the subject of minibots I did learn from Thew in his review on Cluffjumper figures that the original minibot toy's theme in the original Japanese toyline they came from turned out that their alt modes were actually toy cars and vehicles they scanned. Thus explaining why guys like Warpath and Seaspray are so small when they should be larger by real world logic. Funny bit of trivia all right.
     
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  17. Fort Max

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    Can I ask, just how many figures have you seen, how far ahead?
    Not asking for specifics just curious how far in advance they are.
     
  18. Apollux

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    I heard about next year's line up in Aug 19, and I think they're currently finalising 2022.

    My friend occasionally shows me a proto pic or some box art as they're being done.

    So for this line I have seen a full list for the mainline, but have only actually seen about 10bots.

    I don't like to speak much on the one's I haven't seen images of, especially earlier in the year as things change and I don't want to mis-lead people or over-hype anyone.
     
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  19. Fort Max

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    Thanks, that's pretty awesome but it would suck if you're impatient lol.
     
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  20. Kaynowa

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    Have there been any figures you were told about but never released?