I'm sure it's been asked before, but I was wondering about how tall the Autobots and Decepticons should be in relation to one another, given their real-world alt modes.

For example, Prime is a Freightliner FL-86 COE truck, which has a known size. Can we derive Prime's robot height based on the size of that truck? How about Bluestreak / Prowl from the Fairlady 280z? Starscream and the F-15?

The Autobots from the first two or three toy series, Seekers, Battlechargers, Stunticons, Aerialbots, Protectobots, and Combaticons should be scalable, if any of them.

 

Jetfire should probably be the tallest of all, since his ALT mode is a giant plane, with the seekers not far behind.

But none of that really matters, because in G1 scale was whatever it needed to be at the time.....

 

Mass shifting destroys any relation between Alt mode and Bot mode.


There is a scale sheet out there for all the G1 characters. It is lost somewhere in the hundreds of pages of the Hercules Mega Thread.

 

Originally by Dake of the Allspark.

 

CLASSIC LOL

Reminds me of that dude from Lady in the Water.

 

Here's a rough robot-mode scale guide for most of the guys from the first two seasons:

 

Yeah, that's in-show robot scale. JJohnson is asking about the robots scaled to their alt modes, which is not the same. For example, Bumblebee in correct scale would be a little bigger, and Powerglide would be HUGE.

It gets really problematic when you get to the Triple Changers. Astrotrain is a steam locomotive... and a Space Shuttle. Do you have any idea what a a size discrepancy that is?

 

Triplechangers are a big scale problem, to say the least! I'll ignore them for now, and just focus on the single-mode robots we can knowingly scale to each other.

 

Broadside. That is all.

 

That is quality!  

Devastator is the other odd one because you can get construction vehicles in such varying sizes. I often see ppl posting pictures of those fucking huge mega construction vehicles and I just can't see Devy being that big.....your common variety digger/crane etc yeah, which would make him not much bigger than Menasor etc.

 

I would have the robot be in the same scale as the smallest of the vehicle modes (no mass size shifting) and the other vehicle mode would require mass size shifting.

 

This is making in LOL in real life.

 

Scale JJohnson?

This is bad comedy.

It's G1 after all.

 

Here's an old alt.toys.transformers post by Walky with some heights extrapolated from the toys' robot/vehicle ratios and the real vehicle lengths. There's a fair few G1 characters among them:

How tall are Transformers REALLY? - alt.toys.transformers | Google Groups

 

Jetfire and the Seekers should be the same height since their alt modes are all veriations on the F15.

I'd hazard to guess that the biggest G1 TF would likely be Flattop; he being a freakin aircraft carrier an all.

 

Haven't you seen Transformers Prime?
Arcee transforms into a motor cycle, Starscream a jet. Why is Starscream just a little bit taller than Arcee?

But Flattop's a Micromaster. Micromasters are smaller than Maximals.

Also (at least in the cartoon) Skyfire never scanned an Earth mode. So he's just big Cybertronian jet.

 

Yeah, but since this thread is about disregarding the notion of mass-shifting, then you've got a giant bot tooling around on his own personal aircraft carrier. A Nimitz-class carrier is over 1,000 ft long...

Ah, you're right. I was thinking uniquely of the Jetfire toy.

I think a good example of size discrepancies in the G1 cartoons was that between Optimus and Huffer. They both turn into tractor-trailer cabs but are depicted at vastly different scales. In the scene follow Optimus' defeat in the official duel between he and Megatron, Huffer offers to haul the injured Optimus' trailer back to base; which leads to the tiny Huffer comically pulling a giant trailer around.



Conversely, there's a scene when Optimus goes head to head against Motormaster and they are depicted as being roughly the same size in the alt-modes. Personally, I think it would have been hilarious to have the giant-sized Optimus rolling right over an itty bitty Motormaster.

 

G1 Motormaster's cab is the same size as Legends G1 Optimus Prime. I like to compare the two in robot mode. Motormaster completely towers of Legends Optimus Prime.

I also like to think that Legends Motorbreath is a seperate character to G1 Motormaster and become's Motormaster's cab / feet as well as his own seperate robot.


Also, I have World's Smallest Alert stood next to Universe Ultra Silverbolt. I think thats an appropriate size. Who needs Superion? Not Silverbolt.

 

Not that big if you choose the right locomotive.

An Allegheny locomotive is 125 feet long.

A Space Shuttle is 122 feet long. While the shuttle is taller and wider (especially with the wingspan), it's hardly Broadside syndrome.

I see I'm not the only one to have figured that out; and I only did so recently.

The scale thread in the toy forum here has been dealing with this issue; taking alt mode only to figure the real scale of the figure.

 

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