Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by JJohnson, Jan 26, 2023.
I'd use the Selects Swoop, since it's more toy accurate for the sake of the catalog.
“Please be mindful of the catalog”. Haha. Good point! Anyway:
Oh thaoe are sick
That is true. It is not objective, it's the figures I would consider G1 or G1-era, or G2, including the E-Hobby and Diaclone color re-uses. Everyone can have their own list of G1 figures and include whatever they prefer though. The fandom and the fiction are wide enough to support that.
Japan's G1: Transformers: Headmasters
Monsterbots (legends, titans return, titans return)
Doublecross is Legends, while the other two are from Titans Return.
Artfire (Gen Select), Richochet/Stepper (2019 Gen Selects), though not a good update given the changes to his alt-mode and lack of Targetmaster. Pointblank is also available, but not Sureshot or Crosshairs
Fort Max (Legends)
Technobots (Unite Warriors version)
Trainbots - no WFC/Legacy/Earthrise/etc. version
Cassettes - no modernized versions of Dile, Saur, etc.
Cassettes - no modern version that transform into cassettes / shields
MegaZarak / Scorponok
Targetmasters - see last post
Duocons - see last post.
Best I can see right now, Twincast, Soundblaster, Artfire, and Stepper/Ricochet are the only 1987 Japanese-exclusive characters released here. I could be missing something though.
1988 - Powermasters, Pretenders, etc.
Titanmaster Prime is the closest, though he's a headmaster, and the truck itself is quite different from the G1 Powermaster figure. The 2017 Ginrai figure is a little better, but still waiting on a better version that's a powermaster. Slapdash, Getaway, and Joyride do not have modernized figures that are still powermasters.
Triggerbots - Backstreet, Dogfight, and Override do not have modernized figures.
Spy - covered in prior post
Quickswitch is just a retool of Sixshot. It's close, but the modes don't entirely match.
Headmasters/Targetmasters - covered in prior post
Nightbeat and Siren headmasters were released in Titans Return, but not with the vehicles that turned into cars, so these are half-re-released. Hosehead has no modern version.
Scoop has a modern version:
Quckmix and Landfill have no modern versions
Pretenders / Pretender Beasts - no new updated figures that are a pretender shell, inner robot that transforms into some vehicle/animal. The little Prime Master headmaster things aren't a proper update.
Sparkabots - Fizzle, Sizzle, and Guzzle have no modern versions. (Yes, I realize the sparking gimmick is unlikely to survive. That's not a criteria)
Cassettes - Grandslam and Raindance have no modern versions.
Fangry - Worlds Collide Pack
Horri-Bull and Squeezeplay headmasters were released, but not their animal/robot portions.
Darkwing and Dreadwind were released in Power of the Primes, but with that odd Prime Armor stuff and no powermasters.
Needlenose has a modernized Legacy version; the Spinister is not packed with his targetmasters, but they were released separately in the same line:
Quake has no modern version other than a redeco of Hardhead in Titans Return, not a true Double Targetmaster update of the original.
Pretenders - no updated versions that are pretender shells with inner transforming robots have been released. We do have little tiny figures wtih the shell transforming into what the robot used to become, but that's not a real update in my opinion.
Crankcase (Skids retool); Ruckus and Windsweeper had Combiner Wars versions, but they were too different to put here. Crankcase becomes even better if you get the nonnef upgrades to him.
Cindersaur, Flamefeather, and Sparkstalker do not have modern versions (yes, I realize the sparking gimmick is unlikely to be carried over. That's not a criteria.) that are close enough to both beast mode and robot mode. Cindersaur had a Power of the Primes redeco of Slash; the other two don't have modernized versions in any form.
Tapes - Squawktalk and Beastbox have no modern versions
Earthrise has a version, but he's not a double powermaster like the original.
1989: Pretenders, Micromasters
The Pretenders have not been re-released in a version that matches the pretender shell and transforming inner robot theme.
Hot House, Ironworks, Greasepit, Airwave
Off Road Patrol: Powertrain, Highjump (Mudslinger and Tote have no modern version)
Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler, Swindler (Freewheeler and Tailspin have no modern version)
Rescue Patrol: Stakeout, Red Hot (Fixit and Seawatch will be out Fall 2023 with Deathsaurus)
Battle Patrol: Bigshot, Flak (Yes, it was released as Topshot. I'm using the original name just like I use Skyfire instead of Jetfire.) Sidetrack and Sunrunner have no modern versions
Air Strike Patrol: Whisper, Stormcloud (Nightflight and Tailwind have no modern versions)
Sports Car Patrol: Blackjack, Hyperdrive (Detour and Roadhugger have no modern version)
Transports have no modern versions
Groundshaker (without the ATV), Countdown (only with Omega Supreme), Skyhopper (without helicopter)
No Skystalker/Interstellar Shuttle as of yet.
Rocket Base is homaged a little with the Botropolis Rescue Mission:
I did cover that.
I said: "Sureshot has no modern figure, and Crosshairs has a recolored Cybertronian Ironhide that's close, but I don't think I can include him in comparison to Pointblank."
Isnt this what you said
1990: Micromasters, Action Masters
Race Track Patrol: Ground Hog, Roller Force, Motor Head, Barricade (not Decepticon Runner. Just like I say Skyfire and not Jetfire).
Hot Rod Patrol: Big Daddy, Trip Up (Greaser and Hubs have no modern version)
Military Patrol: Bombshock, Growl (Dropshot and Tracer have no modern version)
Unknown Patrol: Windstorm (Daddy-O Redeco), Stingracer (Trip-Up redeco)
Astro Squad: Missile Master, Moon Rock
Phaser and Blast Master
Barrage and Heave have no modern versions
Metro Squad: Roadburner, Wheel Blaze (Fireguard)
Power Run and Strike Down, and Oiler and Slide have no modern versions
Battle Squad: Power Punch, Direct Hit
Meltdown and Half-Track, and Fireshot and Vanquish have no modern versions
There are no modern Action Masters, but there are a few non-transforming figures of G1 characters that I would not consider Action Masters (i.e. a figure with a transforming targetmaster accessory). A legit re-issue of an Action Master does not have to be non-transforming.
Treadshot was released as a redo of Warpath in black.
Krok was released as a Titanmaster, but as an alligator, not whatever jet he was originally.
Mainframe (released with the Ark, but not in G1 colors)
Slicer (SG Wheeljack)
Ooh I didnt th7nk of micromasters
Pretenders: Metalhawk (not as a pretender, though)
Headmasters: Grand Maximus (2018)
The new 2022 is not a headmaster and does not transform into a car of the same model as Nightbeat anymore.
Other figures are either covered in prior posts or have no modern versions, such as trainbots (outside Masterpiece).
Seacons: Piranacon / King Poseidon (Generation Selects 2020)
Rather than a powermaster, he has 2 Prime Master little not-heads to attach to the figure.
Predaking from Power of the Primes
Victory Saber / Victory Leo (HasLab)
Brainmasters, Multiforce, Crossformers, Dinoforce, Breastforce - no modern versions
Big Powered (Road Fire, Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber)
This isn't exactly a one-to-one modernization of the original, since it was really just a Micromaster Base. It's more of a "Powermaster Prime"-like version of Star Convoy, with Prime merging into his trailer.
I kept passing them up in the store. $10+ for two very tiny Transformers?
Ooh here comes vict9ry
Yeah but they arent very good
My modernized collection so far:
1984 - Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Jazz, Ironhide, Prime, Starscream, Rumble, Huffer
1985 - Percepter, Sludge, Slag, Blaster/Rewind, Skyfire (Siege Reissue), Jetfire (got the VF-1S reissue); Kickback
1986 - Galvatron, Cyclonus Targetmaster, Scourge, Sweep, Runamuck, Gnaw, Dragstrip (others on preorder); Rodimus Prime, Hot Rod, Blurr, Kup, Arcee
1987 - Cloudraker, Fastlane, Highbrow, Chromedome, Hardhead, Brainstorm; Skullcruncher, Weirdwolf
Japan: Victory Saber/Leo, Deathsaurus (next year)
Repaints: Burnout, Crosscut (preorder), Breaker, Lift-Ticket
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