G1 Behind the scenes clip from Jason Jankowski!

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Repainted, Apr 9, 2023.

  1. Keldroc

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    Would have been impossible in 1988. CGI was not used like that in anything with a TV budget like this. Everything had to be practical or rear/front projection.
     
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    I enjoyed seeing this as well, inalso thought it was cgi.
    Man, what a brat he was! Standing on chairs, crawling while wearing the company owned wardrobe, acting like he's snorting his drink...
    If it would've been my child, I would've made it clear that if he acted up, that would be the end of the acting gig.
     
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    To everyone ever since they made Transformers Generation 2. That retroactively made the original series Transformers Generation 1.

    This was based on Powermaster Optimus Prime, who's hands are red.
     
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    Part of Generation 1, unless people had no knowledge of the US Marvel Comic, the UK Marvel Comic, The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, Victory, Zone, et cetera. And the quote did specify ‘worldwide’.

    Regardless, though, have you heard anybody use the specific phrase ‘G1 Transformers’ to describe the Sunbow cartoon? I don’t think I ever have, which is odd if that’s how it’s ‘known worldwide’.
     
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    Plenty. Think you might've been living in a certain bubble, friend.
     
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    dj_convoy II Remix!

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    I'd like to think so but the reality is that it was probably destroyed
     
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    lol what a find. However I can't believe the finished product is still worse than the behind the scenes. lmao. oh well.
     
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    Uh... This forum does have a search function.

    Beside that, it's how friends and I have discussed it.

    I remember specifically picking up the term about when MP01 and the TRU commemorative reissues came out, as it was useful to distinguish the original from RiD and Armada.

    There wasn't as much of a need in the Beast Era since RiD was the first reboot but by the time we were two reboots deep, it needed a name.

    And it really didn't feel like a given we'd ever get mainline toys that built on it meaningfully again until Classics. We had Heroes of Cybertron PVCs and some Robotmasters imports and the Dreamwave comic. Most of the heat around the Dreamwave comic centered on War Within.

    Every time we got something close, there was a swerve.

    I definitely remember buying up stuff like Powerlinx Hot Shot and Excellion, thinking it would be the closest I'd get to a new mainline Rodimus. Many of us supplemented our MP01 with Alternators.

    The first G1 Titanium series figure was Rodimus Prime in 2007.

    Masterpiece was essentially a handful of figures of varying scales and accuracy of decos until 2011, most of which had minimal presence outside of Japan.

    And Hasbro seemed intent on fairly radical updates until Prime Wars Trilogy, a handful of Universe figures notwithstanding. Even then, the main G1 characters tended to get redesigned and you'd need to import the Takara versions for media accuracy.

    I'd argue that in many ways, G1 never returned in full force in a mainline U.S. line until Earthrise and we got essentially the first and only chance to comprehensively rebuild the G1 cast without radical reimaginings, updates, added gimmicks, sporadic releases, etc. (MP was never going to deliver a full Ark crew and Takara recently announced the end of its G1 continuity, which has been playing out in manga since 2022.)
     
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    Both aren't lost. I have had them on my archive for years along with tonnes of other hard to find episdodes Transformers Episodes and OVA
     
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    I do remember that the TNG crew toyed with the idea of CGI, but passed on it because of budget and because of how primitive the tech was at the time.

    If you've seen the toy commercials released around Season 5, you'd know how early CGI looked, and them attempting to do such effects for a weekly TV effort like this would have been out of their wheelhouse. Hell, Stop Motion already takes a good deal of time to animate.
     
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    Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this thing that seemed to turn into Jason. Who knew his true form was a middle-aged, shirtless dude?
     
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    Babylon 5 was the first weekly show that really tried to use CGI to do a lot of heavy lifting. It holds up... somewhat. The storytelling and character work and acting are generally good enough to get over the very crude CGI starships (and the storytelling and character work and acting are very good. Larry DiTillio came over to work on Beast Wars after being a story editor for B5's first season.)
     
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    So if you and your friends are talking specifically about the 1984 Sunbow animated series The Transformers you refer to it specifically as 'G1 Transformers'? You use those words in that order?

    [EDIT: I've just used the search function, entering "G1 Transformers". Admittedly I could only be bothered looking at the first ten pages of results, but the exact phrase "G1 Transformers" occurs twice:

    'New Zealand Mint, well known for its G1 Transformers coins...'
    'On another note I sold all my G1 Transformers many years ago...'

    Neither of which are referring to the '84 Sunbow animated series.]

    It is possible, I grant you, that I've been living in a certain bubble of people who don't use nonsensical and meaningless phrases to inaccurately describe things that already have specific and globally understood terminology attached. Long may that continue.
     
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    I use that phrase to talk about everything from 1984 through G2.

    Sometimes G1.5 for the Euro stuff (there's some debate whether that starts with Action Masters or not until the G2 logos appear on the box). Hasbro generally calls most of that stuff G2 now, such as their Rotorstorm figure.

    Sometimes JG1 to refer to Japanese exclusive toys or the various animes from Headmasters through Zone and their manga tie-ins, up through 2022's "End of G1" manga.

    Generation 1 includes toys, cartoons, comic books, and other merch and media. I'm not getting what's so weird here.

    It's too easy to confuse with other stuff without the subtitle.

    TFWiki has also grappled with how to refer to some stuff. Initially, they referred to IDW 1.0 as the Infiltration universe based on their style of referencing all continuities/iterations based on their first story arc, such as Wings of Honor.

    That got muddied over time, much like the supposed "Aligned" universe that included the High Moon games, Prime, RiD2015, Rescue Bots, etc.

    Especially since their stories tended not to line up and the only evidence of it being one universe was Hasbro's official statements, unsupported and even contradicted by the fiction.

    TFWiki started IDing characters based on which series they first appeared in.l but combining entries for characters that appeared in multiple.

    Hasbro NOW says WFC, Prime, Rescue Bots, etc. are separate universes and that the Armada Trilogy (which was shoehorned into being one universe at the time) is now three separate incarnations that may share some history.

    Again, I don't see the issue with calling the 80s cartoon "G1". Likewise, G.I. Joe fans refer to the 1982 through 1994 stuff as "ARAH". My Little Pony fans and Jem fans also refer to their 80s incarnations as "G1", including the cartoons.
     
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    I love that idea of Prime heralding himself with the music!!! At least for when, like, he’s dropping in for story time with a kid.

    Speaking of that kid, where can I get his jacket??? So awesome….

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    I mean, clothes with this symbol come a dime a dozen!!! But not usually in 80s stone-washed denim!!!
    …. Or do they….?

    Also, do you think on set they referred to these guys as….
    ……… Headmasters???? :rolleyes: ;) 
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    Anyway, yeah, loved watching this. I really liked these segments when I was a kid.

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    I was salivating at the idea of more new episodes, especially after catching those Rebirth ones!!!!

    but then…. There weren’t any more…. :( 
     
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    G1 is simply "The Transformers" in the same way TOS is basic Star Trek.
    The initial default in contrast to future branding and marketing pushes.
    The Transformers
    Beast Wars- Transformers
    Beast Machines- Transformers
    Transformers Armada
    Transformers Animated
    Transformers Prime
    Transformers Cyberverse
    Transformers EarthSpark
     
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    I don't think Tommy is going to fare too well, riding on Prime's shoulder in space...
     
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    Re: the "G1 Transformers" discussion. I have no idea how to quantify how widespread a term it is and I doubt any sociologists or linguists have studied that question authoritatively so like, it's not worth debating. :lol  But I can say I grew up with G1, and ever since Beast Wars have always definitively referred to it as "G1 Transformers" in casual conversatoin and so have my friends.

    We didn't call it that in '88 (not anyone I know at least,) as nothing else existed yet, at least in the States. But after enough iterations existed (for me beginning with BW) we started calling it G1 to differentiate them.

    He's got the most epic bop ever playing in his ears everywhere Prime goes, he'll be alright. :lol 
     
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    This is when I started to lose interest in Transformers