Ok, so season 4 has debuted. What do you guys think of the recent ep?

 

Awesome episode,and from the previews,it looks to be another great season.

I really like the addition of Agent Lee to the Fringe division.At first I was skeptical,but he fits in really well.

 

This show was born to be a cult classic.

 

Not bad, although it didn't blow me away like the Season 3 premiere or Season 3 finale. Interested to see where things are headed, how Lee fits in, what changed in this new timeline, how/if Peter gets back and maybe finally some revelations on exactly what the Observers are up to. I just hope they don't drag out the "where is Peter" plotline out as much as they dragged out the Olivia swap last season, since that part of the story went on so long it was getting frustrating. And, just being realistic here, this is probably the last season Fringe is going to get, so they need to make all 22 episodes count in wrapping things up so the series doesn't end on a cliffhanger.

 

What probably happened is in this time line after kidnapping peter he died when Walter fell in the lake.

 

Peter never existed, tho apparently he is still "trapped" in time.

 

No adult Peter never existed, Peter still did. There is a line where they say" They must never find out the boy grew into a man" or something along those lines. Peter would have died if the watcher hadn't saved he and Walter, perhaps they changed things so he didn't.

 

Maybe Peter still survived. If they said they never must find out he grew into a man, then he has survived. Maybe he was left for dead and taken by the compassionate Watcher.

 

So what was going to happen if the Observer would have flipped the switch on his little homemade contraption?

I remember him saying something about "time" to the man at the store.

 

Peter was connected to the Machine, so he's probably using it's latent power to try to keep himself around or something like that.

 

I hope they jump between the universes every few eps. like they did last season.

 

This is kind of like something I was thinking, that Peter actually survived in this altered timeline. When the Observers are talking, the older one says something along the lines of fixing time so events proceed as they should have without the younger Observer's interference. But saving Peter and Walter from their fall in the lake wasn't the first time the Observer interfered. The first time was when he distracted Walternate, causing Walternate to miss the synthesis of the compound that would have cured Peter illness and leading Walter to develop the compound and travel to the other universe. Perhaps the change was that the Observer never distracted Walternate, so Walternate cured Peter's illness, but something else happened along the way.

 

I thought it to be a great episode. I think with the help and understanding of the machine, when Peter phased out at the end of last season, he managed to keep himself in some kind of limbo and is now trying to break free. I think he's trying to contact Walter since he probably figures he is the best person to help.

The observer, I think, was going to remove Peter from limbo completely with that device of his, as is what the other observers want. But of course, he intervenes again and chooses not to. I'm really curious to see what repercussions there may or may not be.

What's not so clear for me is what are the 2 universes now working towards? I mean the whole built up was that one was trying to destroy the other. Now that the machine/peter stopped that, they have to work together......to do what? I'm not too clear on that. It seems maybe to stop fringe events? I don't know, I don't get it.

 

I think I'm a little confused.I thought that agent Broyles from the alternate universe died when he was helping Olivia get back to our universe.Or did the whole Peter getting in the machine erase that ever happening?

Still another great episode.Unfortunately I saw that the ratings took a 20% drop from last weeks episode.....very bad news.

 

I´m under the impression that Peter rebooted time, ala DC.

 

Peter never existed so the events with him involved have all been altered, also without him Walternate wouldn't have quite the same level of hatred towards the other side. Not everything that happened happened. Also Olivia may not have superpowers as Walter's reason for the tests that gave her powers was getting Peter back to the other universe.

 

Very good episode this past week, with an interesting case. However, they really need to drop the "case-of-the-week" stuff and get on with resolving some of the plot lines. They can't afford to drag out Peter's disappearance like they did with the Olivia swap last season, especially with the plots involving the Observers and the breakdown of the two universes still to be resolved. And, unless the unfortunate ratings slide turns around in a big way, the writers only have this season to wrap everything up.

I think the problem is, while the universes are no longer at war, both universes are still damaged and falling apart. Or at least that was the case at the end of last season, but who knows now that the timeline has been altered. And that's yet another reason to bring Peter back fairly quickly, because otherwise they're going to have start explaining all the major differences in this timeline.

 

so far, so good. Really enjoyed this past episode....it looks as if this season will be great.

 

I was right, the observer didn't save them in the new reality when Peter and Walter fell in the lake. Peter Drowned

 

I like the new intro color, orange to show the white and red universes together. Clever girl...

So far it's been an interesting season. Seeing Lee's reaction to two Olivas was funny. I enjoyed the episode where our Oliva took over the professor to help solve a case in the alternate universe. A very well written episode.

The scene with Walter trying to give himself a lobotomy made me cringe. It was great to have Oliva reveal she too was seeing Peter in her dreams. I imagine the Peter issue will be revealed/resolved in the mid-season finale.