well they are not using cat vehicles for a reason, they are using all of hte biggest construction vehicles in the world, which all happen to be different colours.

apart from this one that is, they really should have used this one too..

 

So? My point was that they did the whole mass-shift thing and nobody (but a few fans) cried BS. How hard is it for some people to suspend their disbelief about Alien, transforming robots that are not only alive, but have been waging a civil war across the galaxy for eons and that they travel thru space as giant comet-like things, but not about mass-shifting?

What's unrealistic to me is that they're nigh indestructable except for super-hot ammunition or sub zero temperatures. (which if you think about it, makes their mode of space travel not make much sense as space is colder than the south pole and entery into an atmosphere like Earth makes things very hot.)

 

Exactly! Space is is 2.7K (-454.54 °F), and the coldest the Arctic can get is -90.04 °F. Atmospheric re-entry temperatures can reach up to 3000 °F. Of course this would all be mute if the bots were inside of some protective ship.  

 

I think this colourscheme would've been better, I would have preferred the unified look, and I don't see why it would be so far beyond belief that a group of vehicles coming from the same worksite couldn't all have been have been repainted in the colours of whatever company they belong to. It seems certain that *Devastator* (as single or multiple personalities) must turn up on a construction site/earthworks to gain these earth modes anyway, so they're all going to have come from the same place. Perhaps I'm just a bit unsure because of the rumoured "red, orange, green" colours being touted.

However, I'm quite happy to reserve judgement until the further constituent parts are revealed. At least it looks like he is going to be a big figure combined.

 

they are unique specialist bits of equipment only needed for occasional jobs, so they are not owned by construction companies, they are rented out to them by the manufacturers

 

But it's not too far beyond the realms of belief though?  

Regardless, it's only my preference, and it may well end up looking better for the variety.

 

If someone designed this in 5 minutes before having to leave for work, I'd be pretty impressed.

 

Is it really that hard to imagine that the average viewer might not have too much problem with a Magical Device doing Magic Things but possibly not taking the idea of a character doing Magic Things as seriously?

The protoform modes have crusty debris shell that presumably protects them from extreme temperatures. One of the earlier concepts was a gel protective coating.

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Space being cold is actually a misconception. Temperature is a property of matter, and there's very little matter in outer space, thus the error most people make assuming space is cold. The temperatures of what little there is can vary wildly.

Heat can be transfered by conduction, convection, or radiation, but in space there is almost no medium for conduction or convection so a body in space gains or loses heat by radiation. In fact, all bodies radiate heat according to their temperature (black body radiation); if a body radiates more than it absorbs, it cools off, like a satellite in Earth orbit while it's in the Earth's shadow (from the Sun). If you're in direct sunlight, you will heat up something fierce unless you're a very good reflector!

In other words, space is not cold, because space is not something that can get hot or cold. However, depending on the amount of radiation around, mainly from stars, things in it can get hotter or colder. That figure of 2.7K is what an object would eventually reach once it's radiated all its heat out and there's no star in sight.

So basically as long as the transformers' space modes are good at minimizing radiation they can travel extremely long distance, merely relying on the heat from getting closer to stars once in a while, not to mention the internal heat their power source must produce. Crashing into an iceberg, however, will exchange heat through convection, so depending how deep Megs got it's perfectly plausible for him to have been frozen before he could get out.

It's the same way you can send a satellite somewhere around Pluto and expect it not to freeze while dumping the same satellite in antarctica will turn it into an expensive popsicle.

 

for cooling down a tranformer, water is needed or CO2!

 

Excellent point, however, could the apparently high radiation readings from S7 Geiger Counters indicate above optimal expenditure?

 

HOLY SHIT that's not a construction vehicle that's an island on freaking wheels.

 

Wow, that is a really cool fact there. You learn something new everyday.

So this is our first look at a constructicon. Well, I've got to say that it's interesting. First I have to say that it's good the Decepticons are getting some color in this movie. I remember looking at a group shot of the 1st Movie decepticons and thinking how incredibly bland the color schemes were. The fact that he is a Constructicon and is red doesn't bother me in the least. However, If the color scheme of Devastator as a whole looks a little too mismatched, then I might be a little dissapointed. Nothing a little paint can't fix though. The headsculpt looks pretty cool, looks like there is some good detail there. The detail over all has been pretty good on all the ROTF figures I have seen so far which was a gripe of mine in the original line.

 

One word - Teaser pics.

 

Tell you what, go jump out of a spacecraft with just a pair of shorts on and let me know all about it when you are pulled back into the spaceship 60 seconds later.

Wait ....

 

This constructicon toy looks like something left over from the Armada line. It reallly doesn't jive with the movie aesthetic at all. Even the properly transformed alt mode looks extremely playschoolish.

 

It indeed indicates the autobots leak some amount of gamma rays, though really, it'd also be indicative of their internals including some sort of nuclear reaction, which actually tends to suggest they have a lot of energy at their disposal and thus more than enough to keep themselves warm in the void (that, and since they're bloody huge and fire energy blasts it's pretty indicative of the powerhouses they are in the first place).

Basically yeah, it indicates leaks, but it also suggests that something's powerful enough to afford leaks.

It also indicates radioactive decay though, so it could just be some radioactive space dust crap they picked up while traveling.

But that's the thing, you see. You wouldn't die because of the inexistant coldness of space, you'd die because the human body's not fit for living in space. You'd die because there's no external pressure and that'll eventually do weird things to your body, you'll die because there's nothing to breathe, but, to in fact quote an old NASA FAQ:

So yeah, jumping into space with just a pair of shorts will do a number of uncomfortable, possibly lethal things to you, but being frozen to death isn't one of them. It's breathing that's gonna do you in.

 

But real life construction vehicles DO look playschoolish.

 

Not THAT much. It's a really simplified, overly-childish take on the actual vehicle, compared to say Voyager Ironhide.

 

Bad examples... the toy matches pretty much the real-life vehicle here and Ironhide does look deformed even though that's how the real-life vehicle is. Your expectations in terms of detailing and realism seem to be off the charts.