These are both legally bought boxed versions. Final Cut Pro 4: This is a Student Version, I have the box set still in pretty darn good shape. Sleeve cover has some shelf wear, but only handled the disc once, and never looked at the paperwork. Thinking about 150 plus shipping. Maya 6: Student version, box has some shelf wear, OS X disc handled once, all other discs not even touched. $75 I'll let them both go for $180 plus shipping.