Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by corduroy, Jul 13, 2019.
Heh, just noted this now that you mentioned it!
Cliffjumper was never a realistic vehicle, not in the toon, not in the toy, not in the comics, not in the original microman. Can't "stick" to what never was.
I have a feeling preorders will go live in the middle of the night for North American fans. Glad a few sites have been limiting order numbers lately. That has helped a little.
Vehicle mode is pretty bad. The added horrible bumpers and oddly flared fenders. If bot mode is incredible, I might get it….but it’s wait and see for now.
Both are re-issues, though, of figures that sold out on the first run, so hardly the same as competing against other new figures. XTB and MMC are simply taking a chance on the hype this Cliffjumper will build.
I won't be swapping out anyway. That Chibi alt. mode is terrible.
Sure they can, they could have just used the actual car he was based on like the other 3p companies. Would fit a lot better with their own products. Now even FT has no idea what style they are sticking to.
It’s the same as the other FT minibots, Beachcomber, Brawn, Seaspray etc are all slightly Chibi toon type vehicles. I’d argue that the realistic CJ car with the long hood doesn’t even allow for a good robot mode as no other company was able to even get close to anything worth buying.
All that extra hood volume has to get shoved into the feet or hidden somewhere and it doesn’t look like Cliffjumper ever looked in any medium.
These negative posts are giving me hope that I can land a pre order!
The comic and 'toon were just glorified adverts to sell the toys to kids, so the alt. modes had to look like the toys, but it was always accepted that Cliffjumper was supposed to be a Porsche 924. And the tagline "Robots in disguise" only works if their alt. mode is realistic.
What you're asking for is reinterpretation of a character whose alt mode design is fairly consistent from its inception, not "sticking" to something.
Fanstoy's minibots are almost all chibi, save Warpath who wasn't chibi (or minibot sized at all) in the cartoon. Chibi minibot alt modes is pretty much standard fare for everyone except XTB.
A porsche can look however they want it to look in the G1 universe. It's not real.
Making Cliffjumper realistic just makes him so generic, we have a billion realistic cars already, why does everyone want to turn all the minibots into realistic cars? I just don't get it man.
Some of us are prepared for some creative liberties in the 'bot mode to give us that real world alt. mode. FT's 'bot mode is clearly the best, but for a lot of us, their alt. mode is the worst, and that's a dealbreaker.
Those POs were listed well before today. They weren't riding FT popularity or anything like.
If anything, FT has done what they always do... a silhouette a week after another company announcement, or more recently, as here, trying to usurp them on new or reissue figures by announcing their own reissue (or new figure).
They love doing it to XTB. MMC are just unlucky on this occasion it seems, although the Saltus reissue also tied in with XTB's and then Apache was reissued. So perhaps doubly unlucky?
Since I display primarily in bot mode, I prefer the creative liberties in alt mode. With the alt mode not being able to scale with the other carbots, I understand that desire even less, but to each their own. And Cliffy just won't look toon accurate without a fake chest.
There are already options without a fake chest (MMC, Ace) and options with a realistic alt mode (XTB, Ace).
I have XTB Toro and he's great to scale with the original TT Bee, but FT's looks like it will work MUCH better with TT Bee 2.0 and the other minibots from XTB, FT AND DX9. And his alt mode goes right along with all my other mini-bot alt modes.
Overwhelming demand is for cartoon accuracy. This release is to compliment MP-45 Bumblebee and his Chibi alt mode.
However, Toro is getting a reissue soon and both his real world alt mode and his bot mode better fit MP-21 Bumblebee and his real world alt mode.
Cheat at what? If there's a code of ethics to a figure's transformation process, they're in your head, like any other preference. Which is all good and well, but this one is directly at odds with the 'cartoon-accurate' design.
The robots' transformation processes on the show weren't car-accurate.
It's just setting yourself up for disappointment (which is probably exactly what's happening here) to want perfect appearance and process from a figure based on a cartoon character whose appearance and process were imperfect to begin with. They already make Bumblebee and Cliffjumper figures that utilize the hood as the chest. They don't look like the cartoon characters.
If they release a Bumblebee in the same style I believe it will become more acceptable
.....in a cartoon
One request, he needs to scale well with bumblebee
Cartoon is also 2d, and these figures definitely aren’t that.
They also transform by themselves and are sentient. Ur point is what again?
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