FansToys FT-44 Thomas (MP Astrotrain)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by eVac Z, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Rulocal

    Rulocal Well-Known Member

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    There is always the possibility its an error.

    I was waiting for baba to update the final price on Iceman considering that's the next FT release,

    However he updated the final price on Iceman and Thomas at the same time, Probably just sent the payment email for the wrong figure, since Iceman is released next week.

    and I haven't received my email to pay the balance for Iceman yet
     
  2. franpincho

    franpincho Hater = Fan

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    Man, what a crappy situation for everyone. On one hand, Baba is a trusted seller. But then again, he/she wouldn't be the first one that went rouge (I doubt this is the case).

    And outside of PP protection, geez. If you must, I'd just use a CC as a backup payment for the transaction so that at least you are covered even if PP tells you to eat crap.


    This is truly a shitshow.
     
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  3. WyldeBill

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    Got the Baba email. Was expecting a shakedown for shipping on Sheridan now this? I’m not going to let them sit on 200 bucks. This hobby just keeps getting harder to enjoy.
     
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  4. betsuni

    betsuni I'm just here for the robots

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    You mentioning cancelling made me go look and see if there was a way to cancel the preorder and there is none. So guess the only option is to do what you are doing which is to just wait and let them cancel the pre-order then lose the deposit.

    Edit: Meant that second sentence to be more of a question than statement. Sorry.
     
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  5. Teletran-1

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    Yeah the fact that Showz is only taking full cost too is strange. It must be FT specific because they aren't doing that for Unicron or Bruticon or any other high priced pre-order but are also doing it for Iceman. Something's different with FT preorders
     
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  6. franpincho

    franpincho Hater = Fan

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  7. edgecrusher

    edgecrusher Pepperidge Farm remembers TFW2005 Supporter

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    "No reason" in the context in which I wrote it, which is to say, the business economics perspective rather than an emotional, subjective "what I think is fair" commentary.

    There is every reason for a seller like baba to make as much profit as they can while taking advantage of the market economics (the gap between acquisition price in China and retail price in North Ameica) for however long they can. It is the reason they exist in the first place. Should that gap shrink too far or go away entirely, it is likely this alternate purchase pathway for North American consumers would disappear as well. Such is life, things ebb and flow. They know that, too, which is why they need to make their profits while they can.

    They have a prime position being able to acquire the product for less and being able to keep so much of the margin as profit vs the costs of a retail establishment in the US. They have no reason to continue pricing as aggressively low as they did when they first started and had a need to establish themselves using price as their primary attractant.

    People were more willing to take the risk with a little-known overseas seller when the price was significantly lower than local retail price, as the savings were significant enough to offset the communication barriers, extra shipping time, etc. As they grew and established themselves as a trusted seller, they no longer needed to discount as heavily, so they could expand their margin.
     
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  8. hardreturn

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    wonder what is going on with FT. is it a miscommunication or did they overextend themselves at the exact wrong time with the pandemic hitting? or something else?
     
  9. Madgame

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    Honestly, if it came down to it I don't mind forking up front like Ami-Ami or AE Express, as long as it isn't the new norm. My problem is forking over $215 up front, only to learn at release that shipping is an extra $45. Fuck that!
     
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  10. edgecrusher

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    Their products sell faster and more heavily than practically any other 3P. They can raise their prices because the market can bear it, as evidenced by the sellouts of pre-orders even on figures with the new, higher pricetags. This is both a convenient time to do a price increase while there are other factors at play like freight increases and the recovery from the pandemic that can be blamed for the entirety of the increase even though that only amounts to a portion of it, and it also helps cover any real increased costs of production as well, so win-win. There's nothing significantly amiss at FT, no "overextension" I'm aware of. There's actually just a lot in their favor right now and they are doing what they can while the opportunity exists, and what consumer behavior and pricing strategy at other companies like Takara showed them they can do with little downside risk.
     
  11. smkspy

    smkspy Remember true fans

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    Yeah, I don't mind paying up front. I've done it with all my orders with him. But I don't want this figure to get an extra email upon release saying I got pay $50 extra in shipping costs.

    A price I didn't realize was possible until I started looking at ordering a General Grant on his site.
     
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  12. Red2

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    Dang. I got the email just now also. Not too worried about payment up front it’s the unknown shipping that’s bothering me.

    What to do??
     
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    To top it off the link goes to a weird page that’s not what I expected. It’s a shipping payment pages that’s set at $1. Not the $205 the email is asking to pay.
     
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    I’m referring to the forced full payment, not the increase in price
     
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    They haven't communicated anything like that to NA retailers yet it seems to be either something that only impacts China market sellers or is being made up by those sellers to try to increase their capital on hand. Either way it does not seem to be any sort of overextension on FT's part. Maybe those sellers are overextended though.
     
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    I replied to Baba not possible to pay now. Please can you cancel order and send refund. No reply yet.
     
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    maybe. but both baba and show.z doing it seems like a mandate from FT. probably not a popular decision regardless.
     
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  18. astrotrain1975

    astrotrain1975 FT-44 Thomas is my precious.

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    Thinking of doing the same.
     
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  19. Teletran-1

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    Baba has like 47 available which seems about the total he had for preorders originally, has he essentially just put those orders up again but now asking for full payment? Why would FT care if he and ShowZ get money upfront? This all seems really weird.
     
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  20. metalwar2010

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    For buyers that don't have sellers in their backyard, I can see buyers sticking it out with China sellers because of sales tax being collected or items below the $150 and can't get free shipping from US sellers. Unfortunately for China sellers, with them having to add shipping cost, that becomes a non problem because so far, its starting to tick up so high, even if you have to pay a seller sales tax, your still getting it cheaper in the US. Plus, you don't have to wait 2 months for it.

    I think I'm going to follow your advice to yourself. I'm going to cancel, if I'm requested full payment too. At this point, I might pay $5 more for Astrotrain but I also don't have to lay funds down now versus later.
     
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