We never did get a good reason why the Nemesis looked like it crashed. The Fallen has been hiding in it till every Prime is dead. Theory after the whole debacle on Earth the Creators had their minions hunt down the Fallen. He escaped with the Nemesis but with the Primes and the Creators still out there he is in danger. Fallen may have planned to settle scores once he turned Sol to Energon. From the Fallen's attitude towards primitive humans he hates organics which the Creators are also.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nemesis_(ROTF) The Nemesis launched from Cybertron during the civil war, with Soundwave as its captain, with the mission of finding the last Star Harvester and using its power to free the Fallen, who was trapped in his sarcophagus aboard. It was forced to ditch on that moon after Sentinel Prime's Ark teleported through the ship, crippling it. Soundwave and his crew followed the Ark to Earth through its lingering space bridge portal, and later returned with one of Sentinel's pillars, which allowed the Fallen to escape his sarcophagus and take up residence aboard the ship.
Given the Fallen was directly created by the Allspark - I doubt the creators would be connected to him or interested in him. Remember on Earth they were only after Prime - they want Prime, not anyone else.
Actually the Creators had a connection with the creation of the Transformer race with their Transformium. They provided the material from where they were born from. We know the Allspark gives life with Energon. Transformium being a programmable metal the Allspark infused Transformers with Energon. At some point that Energon became Sparks. But from Galvatron and his brothers Energon or Sparks are not needed to create Transformers with transformium.
That doesn't make sense as in the comics we see the Primes created by the Allspark - same with in Transformers; Prime, etc... I suppose they may have retconned the Allspark aspect for the second trilogy though...
And why are we going by the comics? That may have been the story at the time that the "comic writers" came up with to explain how TFs were made. But the story with Transformium and the Creators have now changed that somewhat hasn't it? What I mean is we can't take the comics as fact because the comic writers "at the time" did not think anything more would be explained on the TFs creation. So they made up a creation story. Which we now see isn't correct. The AllSpark still very well may have a "part" in their creation but we don't know if it is the only thing that gave them life. At the time those comics were written, the Creators and Transformium were not even a thought. Just as when the first movie was created and OP have his speech about the AllSpark filling worlds with life and that's how his kind was created, being contradicted because the history has now had more added to the TFs creation that the writers "at the time" had not thought of.
Good theory but I doubt we'll hear something like that. The Fallen is more connected to Unicron than the Quintessons. He was created by Primus but I doubt Primus would send Lockdown to hunt down Optimus
Very good points here. RedWolf has always provided excellent theories in aiding the poor written scripts for the movies. Now if the Quints are in TF5, and if the Fallen was originally against the organics (Quints) I will be more then pleased. I got to see Shockwave one more time in AOE (definitely not how I expected) and this new theory provides some insightful possibilities in not only bringin the Fallen back, (therefore increasing by excitement for TF5) but more importantly a fans effort in tying the films together. Good job like always RedWolf, you'd be perfect help for a new script. Primus and Unicorn all sound dandy, but why not change the story? Lockdown was a great character whom opened up many directions in the story arc for Bayverse.
Although it could always be retconed, the movies are part of the multiverse. The Primes of the multiverse are already established creations of Primus. He could have used the Allspark to do that though.
My sentiments exactly. We should not assume IDW prequels and adaptations as canon to the films. As the films have their own continuity storyline not affected by IDW writers. Trying to insist IDW comics is canon to the films is like insisting Titan comics is canon to the films. Utterly irrelevant on how films are told. To put it into perspective in the Star Trek franchise on screen events are considered canonical. Now this is being applied to Star Wars under Disney with Episode VII. Pretty much throwing out the Star Wars expanded universe. In the old days we consider G1 as either Cartoon continuity, Japanese continuity, Marvel US continuity and Marvel UK continuity. We do not confuse one over the other. Just because somebody made a movie timeline based on the IDW comics and the films on TFwiki does not mean it is correct. They are mixing two different continuities.
I think IDW at the writers should communicate with each other and come up with ideas prior. Not on a regular basis obviously, just when ever IDW or a writer has plans to expand the continuity they should be filled in so the comics and movies can flow...
IDW just pushes the movie franchises for pretentious books and stories in a market that the Film Crew cares little for. Even the artists of IDW know that. -- RedWolf has a striking perceptive imagination as evidenced by not any form of philosophical douche-dom that some posters follow but demonstrates that by his own clever explanatory theories. I don't always agree with him (duh.) but he sure as hell surpasses everyone in Head-Canon skills. -- AoE is the only film that ends with a climatic tease for a sequel, since it cuts from Optimus arbitrarily flying in space to find them. That's why everyone thinks it could lead into not just a new direction but various interesting directions (I'm not an exception to this trend.) We may finally be getting a phase into the Bay-Formers Universe where Kruger starts caring about reconciling his shit for life. The All-Spark, The Harvester and the Matrix, The Seed and all seem demonstrate various forces of Reality relating to Cybertronians. Even if we provide an explanation it still feels mildly forced considering the awkwardness between the All-Spark and the Seed and Energon it's self. That's why I often put the Primes as a faction of Cybertronian history and creation that has nothing to do with the latter (Quintessons) the problem with my forced opinion is that RedWolf keeps on making sense for some reason. -.-
Nah won't work a they only get drafts. Those drafts can be changed in the final script. Take DOTM. In the film Optimus kills Megatron. In the comic Optimus accepts Megatron's offer of a truce. What you suggest is a level of corporate control that Marvel has with MCU films and MCU related comics. Paramount and IDW are only licensees of the franchise and are not answerable to each other. Hasbro under Aaron Archer claimed WFC, the novels and TF Prime is one continuity we know how that turned out. A bunch of different interpretations of the writer's bible.
