So apparently Christopher Eccleston & David Warner are going to be in the 60th anniversary. That’s pretty cool.

 

That would be tricky. Are you not thinking of the Big Finish stuff they did?

 

Ah damn, I didn’t remember that he’d died! Damn.

Anyway this is the clip where I heard it:

Now I’m wondering if he’s actually involved or if this was taken out of context.

 

Keep in mind much of this stuff was filmed last year. They are currently filming the series after the specials. All the specials are already filmed. For instance Bernard Cribbins is also deceased, but is known to have filmed scenes for the special. And he and David Warner passed with in a few days of each other. So anything is possible.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bernard-cribbins-pictured-doctor-who-27597487

 

That would be cool. I know David’s been in DW before, during that submarine episode with Clara, singing “Hungry Like the Wolf,” but it would be cool to see him again.

 

I've never watched Baywatch.

 

I would be skeptical of Chris coming back with Russel T Davies as showrunner, his departure was messy and Chris has said he has not gotten over the experience, and that he enjoyed the show but not working with Russel or the other BBC heads who went behind his back on stuff after he thought they had reached an agreement. RTD being back is great in basically any other respect, but the chances of 9 on TV again were far greater after he started doing stuff with Big Finish and for conventions but before RTD was back in charge. So that is a shame but can hardly fault Chris for it

This is probably for Big Finish

 

Ah, well even if it’s with Big Finish, that’s still nice that he has some involvement.

 

They could always film a mini-episode like they did with McGann. That could fit within the boundaries of 1. self-contained without other Doctors and 2. directed by someone other than RTD.

 

I do not want to get my hopes up but that would be beautiful

Absolutely. Felt the same way about the Classic Doctors for the 50th who clearly wanted to be involved

 

Well if you watch the fiveish Doctors, they kind of were. Also they had a massive Big Finish Crossover special with all the Doctors.

 

I was referring to the Big Finish crossover in saying that, yes.

 

I recently rewatched *The Girl in the Fireplace" and it hit me that the story arc of Amy pond is basically a retelling of this episode.

They both first met the doctor when they were little girls and he became their imaginary friend. He kept popping in on them as they grow up and eventually he saved them from a baddie who had been stalking them their whole lives... The only real difference is Rennet died before she became a full-time companion, but Amy Pond actually got to become a companion.

Would that mean Rory Williams is the king of France in this analogy?

 

That episode was written by Steven Moffat. Moffat took inspiration from the novel "The Time Traveller's Wife" by Audrey Niffenegger. You can see this influence in some ways in this episode and also in Amy's storyline, but it's most prevelant in River Song

That novel tells the story of a man who suffers from unwanted and uncontrollabe time traveling: one moment he's in the present and suddenly he's in the past or future. One day, in his present, he's confronted by a young woman who recognises him and is deeply in love with him. He doesn't know her, but they become involved and start a relationship. From that moment his time travelling takes him to the past where he meets that woman as a little girl and befriends her. It's because of his time travelling that she knew him and everything about him before he had met her.

Moffat took this idea and used it for River Song, but also used elements from it for Girl in the Fireplace and Amy.

 

The Girl in the Fireplace is hands down the best Tennent episode, period. Actually, it may be the finest episode of the entire 2005 series.

 

Nah, disagree. The tacked on kick in the balls of having him arrive after she’s already died seemed pointless. Just have him go back to when she was still alive. What’s the problem? But then Moffet did the same thing when the weeping angels sent Amy & Rory back in time. They tried to make up some excuse why he couldn’t travel back to the particular year & place they were sent. Just pick a location anywhere on Earth somewhere during their lifetime & fly on over. Done. It was a great episode and a very dramatic moment, so long as you don’t think about it too much. Same with girl in the fireplace. The Doctor of all people would figure out a way to find them.

 

But that is what I liked about it, he couldn't find a way to go get her. One of the biggest issues I have with the classic series is how utterly perfect the Doctor is at solving every problem. Everything he needs to succeed he just pulls out of his ass and wins. The Girl in the Fireplace showed that Post-War Doctor is no longer the embodiment of perfection.

 

And that’s fine. I just think that the problem they gave him as impossible to overcome wasn’t all that impossible.

 

I agree. It would have been more plausible that The Doctor had issues if the TARDIS ended back up on the fritz with imprecise time jumps - a regular issue back in the Classic Doctor days. The 10th Doctor didn't seem to have those issues. Of course, even then, he could have revisited once the TARDIS was back up to snuff but he canonically has a history of forgetting about his companions and even more so those who really aren't.