Do you really think a TF movie can work without Bayhem? Be honest.

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  1. Moy

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    I hope this isn't like a 10th thread on this, and if it is I'll be glad if it was closed.

    Anyway, we've seen every Bay Transformer thus far, but can another director handle that much action/stunts/explosions ?

    I really don't know, but I would love to see a new director do a TF 4 and see how it's taken in a new direction. My only concern is the action.
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  2. Karhukjnsi

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    Yes, I believe so, who? Not sure without further pondering. BUT, I honestly feel that the aesthetic is important, it keeps them alien. What we need is more focus on the robot characters (more personality showing-off for the smaller 'Cons please). I'm not saying "get rid of humans and military!!1@!!", just give them less time, we need to see more of the 'Bots and 'Cons planning, and whatnot.
     
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    Best thing about Transformers is that every iteration of the franchise is a new, fresh take. Movieverse is no exception- these three films were thrilling to watch and incredibly successful, but I wouldn't want the franchise to remain this way just because it is financially proven. I look forward to another filmmaker's unique take on the franchise.
     
  4. FatalT 71

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    This.
     
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    Yes, it can. The action Bay brought to the table wasn't all that great. I can live without his aesthetic, too.
     
  6. Ephland

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    No.
     
  7. bonycrushy345

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    NOPE.
     
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    Without Bay, we would of not have a final battle as epic as the chicago scene. No director can do that as good as Bay can.

    I want Bay back. Hes so good at making beast scenes
     
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    Hmmm...probably
     
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    Not that it can't live without Bayhem, but I think the Bayhem brings something unique for the action of this movie: Makes it kind of gritty and violent, something unique to this franchise [only IDW-comics have shades of this grittyness, but can't quite match due the difference in the media], it's one of the more destructive franchises ever, really brings home the fact that those are GIANT FREAKING ROBOTS fighting.

    Just compare to TFP: Guys like Breakdown and Bulkhead fight and they barely break anything.
     
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    Who says it needs all the over the top stuff the previous movies had?

    The action probably wouldn't be as intense but it would be a way more balanced movie with a different (and good) director.
     
  12. NFossil

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    No.
     
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    Sure, but they need to take it seriously. Michael Bay pretty much did it for the art, so it was treated like an actual movie franchise, not just a movie revival of an old 80s cartoon. There was no fanwank and nothing overly cheesy, and that's why it was successful. The Transformers movie became its own entity, and it was respected.

    I think this was the problem with G.I. Joe. It didn't feel like something that stood on its own.
     
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    I love the franchise, I love most things about the movies (including the action and the "dirty and realistic" filming style of Bayhem) and I can't wait for a fourth film, but in all honestly, YES, a new film can work without Bayhem. Would I like action and excitement? Yes. But you don't need Bayhem for action and excitement. I'd get excited if we had 45+ minutes of the robot characters standing around talking to each other. :D  And then like, one or two action sequences.
     
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    I believe that for the franchise to continue it's success, it should be handed over to a new director, with a fresh perspective, who will continue with the foundation that has already been laid down.

    The bot's need more depth and character than what Bay gave them. Yes, the film must have human interaction and plotlines as well, but I , personally think the whole boy-girl relationship deal needs to go.

    Sam's parents and the twins really screwed up ROTF, and the overkill on humor was evident as well.

    I just think that TF needs a more mature tone that is parallel to a solid storyline with the right balance of action and interaction between bots.
     
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    I like the Bayhem. It's really cool to watch and I really liked the way the movies looked and felt. I am a fan of all of Bay's movies and I can't wait to see his next project. If I had to choose a replacement, I'd choose either Justin Lin or Jon Favreau.
     
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    I'd prefer if they kept the aesthetic. However, we don't exactly need entire montages of bad humor and mind-numbing explosions scenes. I'd like well though out movies that don't make Transformers look like a guilty pleasure.
     
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    The Bayverse wuldn't be so hot without Bay.

    Bring on someone else with another vision.
     
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    Bring on a new vision, fresh new story, designs. Nearly all the worthwhile 'big bads' are dead in the Bayverse anyway..
     
  20. BluRayHiDef

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    You seem to hate the films, which makes me ask: Why do you visit this section?