Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tracer, Jun 14, 2017.
There's too many sights of UFOs in the South here in Brazil.
Never posted in here but always wanted to check this thread out. I believe in both separately and also believe that they're both interconnected to a degree. About 4 years ago I learned about Skinwalker ranch watching the Hunt For the Skinwalker documentary, very chilling eye opener (a wider opening that is). I also just in the last 20 minutes watched a new episode (and watching another at the moment) of Unsolved Mysteries discussing the sighting at Lake Michigan in 94. If anyone ever needed convincing or wanted compelling evidence, these two pieces of media will certainly do it. No doubt Skinwalker Ranch has been thoroughly discussed here.
Skinwalker Ranch is a tricky one for me. I think there is (or was) something supernatural about that particular area, but it's been so dominated by media attention and opportunistic cash-grabs since Bigelow purchased the land in '96 that I truly think anything legitimately mystic about it has been drained.
But then again, I always think when it comes to the supernatural, your experience will largely be dictated by how you go into it. If you're a die-hard skeptic, you're probably not going to see or feel anything. If you're a believer or otherwise truly open to it, you may experience something strange. I don't think this makes the phenomena any more or less real - I think these things are deeply tied to our subjective perception of the world and the nature of our collectively-constructed reality. Maybe Skinwalker Ranch is still host to the supernatural, maybe it is still one of those places of liminality where the barriers of reality are just a little less dense, but I think it's been so thoroughly claimed by cynical intentions these days that I don't see how it could be anything but a big publicity stunt milked by greedy entrepreneurs.
I I believe everything I heard about it, whatever it was at least killed a couple of dogs, so I like to think other local dogs in the area teamed up and obliterated it in some epic adventure.
I've been sitting on a story but haven't told it due to my fear of being visited by the government. I will divulge one part. I had a relative who passed away last year. He used to be in the Air Force and worked as a mechanic. He worked on a lot of interesting things. At a family reunion I asked him and UFO's and what not. He said they're real. I also asked him about Area 51 and he said he used to work there. By the way he was from Las Vegas. An interesting tidbit that he told me was that the workers there never call the place Area 51. He says they all laugh at the media for calling it that. I asked him what they call it and he said they don't call it anything, it's just "there". He said the closest thing that some there call it is Dreamland, as that has always been one of the names given by the media.
I can only imagine what "Dreamland" could REALLY mean. Interesting stuff, I've always heard if you try to Google Maps Area 51 it's just a giant black blur.
Considering this is pretty much the same kind of stuff Bob Lazar has been saying since the late 80's (right down to the Dreamland nickname), I doubt you'll be receiving any men in black visitations anytime soon. Not to cast doubt on your relative's story, though - that is a pretty common kind of statement from people in the Air Force or in other related fields.
I mean, you can literally do that right now and see that it isn't.
Not that this proves anything, mind - it's still an active military site, so it would be reasonable to assume that the Google Maps images are edited in some way. Either way, it seems unlikely to me that Area 51 is used for anything more than relatively mundane aerospace-related projects, just as it always has been (i.e. stealth fighters, drones, other experimental aircraft). Not that I'm saying it couldn't have been a place for UFOs/aliens, but I myself am moderately skeptical of that claim.
Well, what I posted isn't even the good stuff he told me.
Intelligent life in space is too intelligent to ever visit us....
I don't believe in ghosts but I do believe the zombie apocalypse is imminent.
For aliens, the math implies that we just can't be alone in the universe, the question will be how advanced they will be for their intelligence, culture wise, science, mentality, etc. as here on this planet for all the advancement we've done, we're still very primitive and too much lacks the maturity required for us to move forward as fast as we could otherwise. The odds of us even getting there (space travel) before we end up destroying ourselves are feeling slim at this point, so the odds of another planet managing to face with this evolution is similarly low, but I would love to find out before I die and hopefully the work to reach space travel would mean that they would be "unlightened" and not coming here for food and resources.
For the supernatural, I believe in energies, some have more than others, and some can either see or influence the environment more than others. For ghosts, the debate that it's it would be a person's energy that's lingering, or if the person's soul (or whatever one would call it) that's staying behind, etc. there's so many possibilities that it's impossible to know, and on top of that, if there was actual confirmable proof of the afterlife or that something follows, we'd end up with massive suicide numbers most probably. Any proof of anything beyond life absolutely needs to stay "hidden" for the very reason that people wouldn't be able to accept or handle it, and part of the supernatural would be to be able to stay hidden, unseen or unconfirmable as such. I've lived a number of instances that would fall into the category of "unexplained" (beyond just ghosts and such) but I try to look at it from an open minded mindset and take it for what it might have been about.
Both. I certainly believe in spirits, because I believe there has to be something after you die other than eternal nothingness. I also believe in UFOs / aliens, because in a universe as big as ours there’s bound to be something else alive off of Earth.
I've had an interesting thought involving astral projection, sleep paralysis/night terrors, and some shadow people. What if the reason you sometimes see a shadow person standing there when you're having a bout of SP/NT, is because you astral projected and are seeing yourself?
Well....how about this new thing that was just shot over Alaska?
Google it my dude, it's all over the news.
If by "ghost" is meant an incorporeal manifestation being capured by consciusness, then yes I do believe. If it is understood by the Spirit, I also believe. This is not the place to go in-depth on these matters, however. Regarding aliens, I believe that we are not alone in this vast universe, it would be very pretentious to believe something like that.
Just read about it. Total Ballon from what I read.
That was shot down a few days ago, this was shot today, not a balloon.
Floating in the wind on radar since Thursday, no signs of propulsion or crew.
If an intergalactic vessel was to appear over us I do believe it would have capabilities to avoid a smow moving missile bro.
I've seen objects in the past that I can't explain due to their movements. But this just screams balloon to me from all descriptions of it.
I'd like to see what you're reading then, because all I'm seeing is that they're describing it as an "object the size of a small car" that was shot down today over Alaska. The balloon was shot down a few days ago over South Carolina.
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