Did Starcream attack Megatron in the first film?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by QLRformer, Nov 6, 2012.

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Did Starcream attack Megatron in the first film?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    52 vote(s)
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  3. Don't know

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    20.5%
  1. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

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    "An F-22 in the Battle of Mission City blitzes Megatron. Fans suggested that the attacking F-22 was Starscream in disguise, which fits in with his classic double-crossing nature. Writer Roberto Orci felt it was up to fans to decide if it was really Starscream, having not considered the idea when they were writing the movie."
    Transformers (2007) - Trivia - IMDb

    So, do you think that jet WAS Starscream, or was it a random jet?

    I personally hope it was Starcream. It'd be the one bit of treachery he ever committed in these films; though Sentinel Prime makes for a far better traitor, the fact that Starscream never committed a single act against Megatron is a constant irk and I'd like to think that was him, and that it came back along with Megatron to haunt him...

    What do you think?
     
  2. Aernaroth

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    I like to think it was, even if it might not be a great fit for that incarnation of the character, or really well supported by the film.
     
  3. Noideaforaname

    Noideaforaname Pico, let's go up to Zuma

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    Yes.
    To hell with the official explanations or what the movie itself may or may not support; every other Starscream ever would gladly give their T-cogs for that kind of opportunity.
     
  4. Ephland

    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

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    I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly...

    What actually happens in a movie doesn't really count. What counts is what another version of a character in a different iteration of the franchise would have done in a similar situation.

    Do I have that right?
     
  5. eagc7

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    while it may fit Starscream.

    The Reign of Starscream comic explains he was considering to attack him, but before he could, Sam killed him. so Starscream was not among the attackers. even Bob Orci could not give an awnser if Starscream was involved or what
     
  6. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    And considering in-movie Starscream ultimately never showed any signs of serious ambitions in any of the three movies...
     
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    well in the comics hedo, but in the movies, in rotf he shows a bit of it

    ROTF: "Someone had to take command"
     
  8. Bountyan

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    I say no. He never showed any sign of ever wanting to betray Megatron in the movies. In the comics maybe, but I'm not counting the comics because I doubt the writers even care what happens in them. If they wanted to make it known Starscream attacked Megatron, they should have made his characterization believable enough for us to think that or make it obvious through the scene. Neither happened. So I'm assuming no.
     
  9. Meta777

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    He probably did. Cruising with the other jets, shoot up Megatron then make his get-away when the tyrant was finished off without ever knowing he'd even shot at him. Flawless victory, at least until Megs came back to life.
     
  10. Dinobot747

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    I like to think so, yes.
     
  11. Cyber-Scream

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    I like to think he did. I don't think we'll ever know for sure, though.

    EDIT: Oh. Apparently is was confirmed he didn't? Okay.
     
  12. Starscream Gaga

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    I like to think he did, but it was confirmed he didn't.
     
  13. TylerMirage

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    As supported by the movies? Probably not. Or at least, it was ambiguous at best. So no.

    My own fan-canon? Yes.
     
  14. Rayzilla Prime

    Rayzilla Prime I RIP ALL MY RAZE!

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    I'm gonna say "no".

    I did originally see him doing so, but after seeing Starscream's portrayal in the next two films, he just didn't seem the type to have the stomach for it. He only took over, probably because Megatron said so, when Megatron went after the Allspark. Megatron came back, and Starscream's temporary leadership had served its purpose.

    He's more of a bully in the movieverse, picking on those who are weaker. He doesn't lash out at Megatron because he knows Megatron is stronger, and if he stepped out of line, Megatron wouldn't hesitate to fry his ass (if anything, Megatron could see him as expendable). He always seems to be a cowardly suck-up towards Megatron rather than a treacherous slime.

    But his pride destroyed him when he didn't expect Sam to be armed.
     
  15. soundwaverulls

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    Officially, no but in my fanon, yes.
     
  16. Gingerchris

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    I'd say no. I have no problem with people believing him to have done the attack but since there's nothing in the movie to confirm it it's just a bit of (admittedly nice) fan canon.
     
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    Although it was unclear, & they didn't put much emphasis on Starscream's desires to become leader, I do believe that Starscream was one of the F-22s that shot at him. He shot him down, made his escape, & then (presumably) took leadership of the decepticons until Megatron's return in ROTF, which Starscream was both disappointed & really nervous about. That fact also makes it more likely that Starscream tried to kill him in TF1.
     
  18. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I wish.

    I hate how this version was never depicted as the oppurtunist and scheming backstabber taht i like about other Starscreams.

    All we got was a wimp.
     
  19. AquamanOS

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    No. No.

    If he wanted to, why the heck would have exposed himself to the other F-22's wiped out most of the squad (weakening the overall attack power) and then left, if he wanted to attack Megatron?

    If he wanted Megatron dead, all he had to do was join in the formation fly straight towards Megatron and open fire with the other 10 or so F-22's, to kill him.

    Instead his actions (taking out most of the squad, so that the two F-22's that actually make the run aren't enough to actually kill Megatron) imply he was trying to help him.
     
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