Did Bumblebee hate Ratchet???

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Makai Lung, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. Makai Lung

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    Bumblebee was less on edge than Optimus when he realized from cade that Ratchet was killed in AOE. Considering that all three of them have come a long way in previous events; Was he pissed that there's no one else around to fix his voice or that Ratchet didn't try to finish fixing it in time???

    Neither he nor Optimus even tried to recover his remains from ksi for a proper burial. Did they WANT ksi to finish melting Ratchets head after they left???
     
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    No.
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    When Bumblebee was watching the footage of Ratchet's death during the campfire scene he was pounding his leg a few times in anger. And when he was shown Ratchet's head being melted he kicked the peddle to the metal, but not before scanning a yellow vehicle to show off his true colors to his human opponents.
     
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    I have no idea how anyone could ever come to this conclusion.
     
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    How did you get from "not being as furious as Optimus was" to "he hates him?"

    Also, Ratchet and Bumblebee hardly interacted. You can't really say they had any relationship whatsoever.

    Fixed that for ya.
     
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    Because who sits on their ass to scan a new camaro after witnessing their friend get mutilated in the most undignified way!?!?!?
     
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    This has nothing at all to do with your OP. How does this in any way mesh with the original argument you presented about him hating Ratchet?
     
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    Because he didn't mourn or try to raid ksi for what they were doing to his head. Bee had a more "whatever" demeanor when he founded out he was dead.
     
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    That's a completely different statement than saying he hated Ratchet, which is what you said at first.
     
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    That's just because the movies suck and don't treat the Transformers as real characters.
     
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    A lack of characterization is one of the most consistently blatant issues with the bayverse. . .
     
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    So? Given their age and experience Optimus and Ratchet might've known each other for much longer than Ratchet and Bumblebee knew each other. Just because I don't weep as hard at the funeral of a guy I only saw as a friend of a friend as his best friend doesn't mean I hate the guy.

    Ratchet fixed his voice in the first film, Bumblebee just decided he enjoyed being speechless more. I think Sam said that once in ROTF.

    If he was pissed he would've made excuses to skip the KSI raid, but he didn't. I wouldn't go on a mission to avenge a guy I hated especially if it's my own life that's on the line.

    Ugh, wasn't the point of destroying the lab SO they can't continue melting any more Transformers?

    Besides, what's there to recover? The mutiliated, colourless dead metal of his that's already been mixed in with that of Protoforms, Soundwave, Shockwave, and Sentinel Prime? The timeframe of the situation (being on the risk of a Lockdown attack) just made it ineviable, and they didn't know which part of the building held the head Cade showed them. They didn't need his remains to show their respect, and a burial in where? The last time they buried a friend was Jazz in 2007, and by the time AOE happened 2007 passed long ago. Prime and the Autobots can't just hook up Morshower and say "yo my friend died to your government and I want him buried!" anymore; That's literally begging for suicide.

    Transformers in Michael Bay movies, I guess.
     
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    This entire thread in a nutshell...


    r/woooosh
     
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    Scanning the Camaro took a mere 10 seconds. No time was wasted.
     
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    Yes...just like the flowers hate the rain, peanut butter hates jelly and Joanie hates Chachi...
     
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    I am pretty sure Rachet must have given Bee his legs back after the first movie....
    ... If somebody did that for me I doubt I would hate them.
     
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    Booze? Lack of sleep? Permanent brain damage from too much Bayformers?
     
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    What the honest hell is this thread.
     
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    This thread sounds like a fan-fiction
     
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