Should the decepticons be easy for the humans to take out, or should they struggle in taking them out? I'd prefer that NEST works hard in taking this bots out, like sacrificing hundreds of soilders would be nice. I don't like it when defeat comes easy. s
Hmm, yes. but I expect the Decepticons to be fully knowledgeable about our weapons, maybe something that really protects them from harm for a while, like what the aliens managed to do in ID4.
Thing is, this isnt ID4. Besides, they have Gattleing Guns and Missles like, us, so what's your point?
I understand and agree with your sentiments. I don't really like the fact that the humans can go on these hunts to take down the Decepticons. Though that's not even too bad, as apparently Spoiler it's Prime and Ironhide that take Demolishor down . But I guess I'll have to live with the fact that the movie-verse robots are destructible aliens, not invincible cartoon characters. They're out of their element, just a small group of Transformers among a planet of billions of humans, who already dominate the planet, and have weapons systems set up everywhere. Now about Devastator... SPOILER alert. I think it is a cheap way to get rid of him. Yeah, the railgun is awesome and powerful, but why bring him in if you're going to let the humans kill him like that? I too would like him to at least do some major damage/slaughter first. I'm glad Megatron escapes though. He seems to be on a higher level than the rest, and can sustain some major damage. Still not unbeatable by the humans though. So humans kill Devy and pretty much the whole battlefield of Cons at the end(with the Autobots' help, they're just helpers now), but at least it does come down to good old Prime vs. The Fallen. But imagine if/when they do bring Unicron into this. I'd like to see the humans destroy HIM. I'd give up if they did.
Well, you gotta consider the fact that Michael Bay has US military involvement on this thing. While they're happy to supply vehicles and aircraft and make them 'Cons, I'm not sure they'd be too happy getting their asses kicked by them. I agree, it is a little bit much what they can do, and this film should have been the one to kind of... subvert the whole "humans killing 'Cons" thing, woulda been a nice "oh crap" moment to see Sabot rounds don't work so well anymore or something, but the bottom line is, the military wouldn't be too happy with being portrayed as easy pickings for the Decepticons. As much as it sucks, it does make sense.
I agree. Unicron is the Super bad guy. Nothing below a Autobot/Decepticon alliance would take him down.
Why shouldn't humans be able to stand toe-to-toe with transformers? The alternative is wholesale murder of humans in every scene by the dozens which while that is something some of the more mentally sick members of the fandom have been asking for, doesn't make for a good movie. Almost all of the comic series of the past 10 years have shown Humans getting the best of the Transformers in many ways. Not sure why it is so horrible that it appeared to happen in the movie... except people need justifications to continue to complain.
Humans have already caused the extinction of countless species and I am sure if there are real Transformers species, these Transformers species are dead meat. My parents are from China and I am sure we can find ways to cook Transformers to feed our children.
Ok, serious question here, I'm actually curious to see if anybody could answer this with any sort of... lack of bias. Hypothetically, Autobots are off Earth. They're off... cruising through the cosmos picking up Fem-bots, collecting Mini-cons, whatever. In that situation, Decepticons come to Earth, they're just fighting the human militaries. Who wins? I'm not trying to imply the 'Bots are uselss or anything, they aren't really, just trying to see if anybody thinks they stand between world conquest for the 'Cons or not.
The military can easily destroy all the Decepticons. The only advantage of the Decepticons is space travel so all that the Decepticons can do is escape to space and they better not come back if they don't want to be sold as scrap metal.
It's one of my biggest beef with TF1, that soldiers (just by observing and testing Scorponox's severed tail) were able to come up with the perfect weapon to destroy Decepticons (or just Transformers in general). And Blackout was indeed killed by such a weapon. For a technologically-advanced sentinel race who have lived for millions of years, it's rather stupid for them to be able to get destroyed like that. I hope ROTF would not make Decepticons so easily killed by puny humans again.
are the transformers of the bayverse millions of years old? the fallen and his brothers came to earth when humans where in stone age stage of development. that doesnt seem like millions to me. as for them being easily defeated by the military, i dont overly like it. i want a heavily armed battalion being able to take down one con with minimum amount of casualties. the transformers should be beatable just not easily so
You don't see people bitching about ID4 and War of The Worlds do you though? Same super-advanced alien races, killed off by the bloody common cold!!!
Yeah but they both killed millions of people in the process. I agree that the human to decepticon death ratio should be much higher. It should be much more like an armed man versus a pack of wolves. Sure, we'd have the tech advantage with guns and such, but eventually we would be overwhelmed by shear numbers. I guess what the movie-verse is trying to say is that the tech advantage is not as broad of a gap and we would think.
You also have to remember that in the cartoons, all sorts of things happened, at the very least Transformers getting shot and blown up hundreds of times and still functioning, such as Waspinator and Megatron in Beast Wars. Anyway, I don't want to see a movie where the Decepticons are just waltzing through, blowing stuff up and swiping humans like flies; that's what we have the comics and cartoons for. And why is it so bad iof humans kill decepticons anyway?
