Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Fox13, Jul 13, 2018.
Ok that is 100% not a Harrier.
Better look at the Dropkick fig.
I just realized something! Dropkick's codename was Bluelight / Unknown Hero.
become a bot?
Can't believe we all missed that Shatter yesterday! That's a very interesting jet mode. I'm curious if it's just artistic license for the toy, or if the movie jet resembles it at all. I don't see anything resembling Harrier parts on it.
What the hell is happening with her face?
Can anyone identify whether this is real life jet or not?
Anyone else getting a Knockout/Breakdown vibe from these guys?
Unless the simplicity of the toy is compromising the look of the jet it looks like it might be a cybertronian jet design no plane has boosters on its top like that, and certainly not one from the 80s.
If it has a more a regular looking jet mode in the movie based on the front of the plane to the back of the wings just before the boosters it looks like it is based off of the Saab Gripen which first flew in 1988
It is so weeeeeerid!
I do love that giant one step Bee 76 Camaro figure!
'Bumblebee' movie teases Optimus Prime and triple-changer Decepticon at Comic-Con
“They had to be a little bit more complex, so … they’re triple-changers,” Knight said. “They had to turn into two different things in addition to being a robot. So they are muscle cars… but also Decepticons are aircraft. They turn into things that fly. So Shatter can turn into a harrier jet and Dropkick can turn into a chopper. And you can see little pieces of that in the design.”
Shatters plane mode of her figure a few post above is not anything close to a harrier, so either it was made with artistic liberty for easy transformation, or based on early concept art
The fact that she does turn into a harrier raises my eyebrow quite high.Like there's gonna be a lot of animation cheating lol.
I'm hoping the term "Harrier" is being used loosely.
I can see what Travis was going for by making them Triple Changers. In G1 the Decepticons didn't all turn into aircraft, but they all flew. Even Soundwave in his tape deck mode. This lets them get around easily, whereas the Autobots are more grounded and vulnerable. I think that's what they're going for here. They definitely need Bumblebee to feel vulnerable and trapped, at least at first. It's also a way to let the Decepticons have cool muscle car modes AND be able to get around quickly. (So they avoid the problem that, say, the Constructicons have in ROTF, where they just kind of teleport to where the action is happening.) I wouldn't want this to be the case in every piece of TF media, but it works here.
. But I seriously doubt it.
There’s no such way. No other plane resembles a Harrier at all*, not even other VTOL jets of the era. This toy is simply utterly unlike what the CG model indicates her alt-mode should be. (Even though the toy in bot-mode still has nearly every identifiable Harrier-part molded in—they just aren’t used in the toy’s alt-mode). You can clearly see the Harrier’s outrigger landing gear+wheels sitting on top of the boosters in the toy’s jet mode, facing upwards.
*ok, maybe the Supermarine Scimitar, but it has a good reason to. And it too has zero resemblance to Shatter’s toy.
I think the theory is that it might be some kind of smaller version of a Harrier jet. Not literally a shrunken down Harrier, but a fictional vehicle that resembles a Harrier, only smaller. Kind of like the fake "future" Audi in the I Robot movie...
It's an alien that transforms into a plane and a car, so I don't think we're bound to a strict set of rules here.
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