DC Comics Discussion

Discussion in 'Comic Books and Graphic Novels' started by Tekkaman Blade, May 31, 2011.

  1. Tetratron

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    TBH, I even find DCAU Quinn hard to sympathize with given she was willing to go along with stuff like Joker mind raping Tim Drake in Return of the Joker.
     
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    Honestly I don't really get the appeal with Harley either, especially with DC trying to push her towards younger girls.

    At what point did this happen? From what I understand Deadpool's popularity with the mass market got a big boost from the video games from the early/mid 2000s, and it just went from there.
     
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    Yeah, I don't count that. Return of the Joker is kind of a betrayal of the earlier DCAU in terms of tone. It's the beginning of the same kind of evil-level creep that was a problem with the comics in the 2000s. You know, like when Doctor Light couldn't just be a bad guy. Now he has to also be a rapist and pedophile. And they have to reference it all throughout any appearance he makes. Then at the same time, have him show up on the Brave and the Bold cartoon for kids. DC desperately needs to figure out what their brand is, and get the hell on it.
     
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    Didn't realize the guy behind the "I Heart New York" also did work DC

    RIP.
     
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    Oh, I just got a security warning on my browser. Why? Because I clicked on a link to CBR. That was dumb of me. When will I learn?
     
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    Yep, that website is trash in more ways than one. Lol
     
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    Wait, there are new ones or are the old ones coming back to light?
     
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    A new one from what I’ve gathered.
     
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    Sexual misconduct or harassment, to be fair. He is not being accused of assaulting anyone. From what I just read, I'm not sure he's even being accused of anything illegal. Just being super creepy and coming on to younger female creators. But I haven't seen anything about any girl involved being underage, just younger than him.
     
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    My mistake. I skimmed it over just enough to miss the specifics...
     
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    Find Dick Grayson or Tim Drake a writer who will latch on them as hard as Lobdell does with Jason.

    Unaware Lodbell has had these allegations going back a while but unsurprising knowing the industry he's been allowed to stick around despite them.
     
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    It's a serious problem with these things that everyone gets lumped together as if there aren't degrees of badness. People end up going after someone who harassed someone verbally once as hard as they do someone who had been raping people for decades. Both are bad, but we shouldn't lump the first guy in with actual rapists.

    As long as he was just a freelancer hitting on other freelancers, it's mostly just creepy more than anything else. Where it really becomes a problem is when it's a staff member who also acts as a gatekeeper for who can break into the industry and/or make the workplace miserable for female staff members, and then uses his power to try to force himself on others. Like that editor from a few years back. But Lobdell has no such power over anyone else in the industry or anyone looking to enter the industry. He's just some guy, basically like anyone who hits on women who aren't looking for that.

    This doesn't seem to be like that Cameron Stewart artist guy who was targeting underage girls and then emotionally abusing them, in addition to any sexual contact, which is flat out illegal and he should be prosecuted for it. There's a world of difference between that and what people are saying about Lobdell. It's like the difference between Harvey Weinstein and Aziz Ansari.
     
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    Again my mistake, I was kind of distracted when I read the title. I only made out the sexual and a word that started with an A. I didn’t memorize what it was and I didn’t bother to dig the article up again.
     
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    Sorry. I'm not meaning to single you out or accuse you of anything. Sorry if it came off that way.
     
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    Finally, was afraid this book wouldn't happen. Before the GL one, this was my favorite of the Earth One series.
     
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