Cybertron's (and Megatron's) History with Earth in the Transformers movies

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  1. Shlockwave

    Shlockwave a.k.a Moronmaster

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    So this will give us all a headache. After 4 movies, is THIS how we are supposed to accept Earth's interaction with Cybertron?:

    Age of the Dinosaurs: the "Creators" swing by, to drop seeds and create "Transformium"...(cousin to unobtanium?) and mine it for creation of Transformers.

    (Megatron comes to Earth reason #2) The 13 original Primes come to Earth and the Fallen betrays them, goes ape-shit and gets his ass handed to him by the other Primes. The Sun Harvester is hidden as is the Matrix. We can only assume the Fallen gets away so he can order Megatron to come to Earth and reactivate it so the Fallen can get his revenge...

    Sentinel Prime strikes a deal: with Megatron to come to earth (Megatron comes to Earth reason #3) to turn the tide of the war for the greater good of Cybertron...EXCEPT:

    (Megatron comes to Earth reason #1) Megatron goes to earth to find the Allspark and crashes in the arctic.

    Now I haven't read any of the filler comics, so maybe I'm missing a whole lotta backstory, but if I were the average movie-goer, I would be like WTF.

    Is there anything I'm missing? LOL
     
  2. RazorX3000

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    Whenever I think too hard about the timeline:

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  3. Stonecrusher

    Stonecrusher Just another Edgelord

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    These films don't even TRY to have a consistent backstory.
     
  4. Dragonzzilla

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    Finally, someone connects the dots I've been talking about! The backstory is all over the place.
     
  5. Shlockwave

    Shlockwave a.k.a Moronmaster

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    I just think it's funny how Megatron's reason for coming to Earth changes from movie to movie. LOL
     
  6. uruseiranma

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    All we need to know is that Earth is the Cybertronian repository, or 'dumping ground' when it comes to plot points.
     
  7. Dotmshockwave

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    I have actually put it all together in a way that makes sense but the creators fucked everyth.....wait , no they didnt! It all makes sense now, oh k here we go guys be prepared for one long ass master plan thanks Megatron...... Part 1: Megatron becomes influenced by the fallen and is told to go find the matrix of leadership to gain more energon for cybertron, Megatron then starts the Decepticon rebellion and trys for the Allspark before leaving but he soon finds Sentinel who strikes a deal that they should teleport Cybertron to this Earth so they can rebuild it and he tells Megatron the area were the Allspark would land(earth). Part 2: Sentinel would then launch toward earth to meet Megatron there but would get his ship blasted on "accident" and would be flung towards Earth while sentinel was "dead". Megatron would then come to earth following the allspark and once he found the allspark he would activate the army/laborforce, but some of you may be like wait a minute didnt megatron land thousands of years before cars how did he get his army? This is were the creators come in. Since Earth contained transformium and was "cyberformed" Megatron had the metal he needed for his army, idk how he knew the metal was there but its our best guess for his whole army thing. Anyway Megatron now had the resources he needed and he used the allspark to locate the Matrix, then he would contact Cybertron and hire Shockwave to kill Optimus. Part 3:Once Optimus died the Fallen would come to earth and use the harvestor to blow up the sun to use as energon to reactivate cybertron, secretly Megatron would go locate Sentinel's ship and reactivate with the cube or Matrix and since only a prime can "defeat" the fallen Sentinel was Megatron's tool for just that. Part 4 :Once they killed the Fallen Sentinel would transport Cybertron to Earth and use the energon from the sun to restore cybertron and then the Army/labor force Megatron got from the transformium would help rebuild the planet, after Cybertron was restored Megatron most likely would backstab Sentinel and be the high and mighty leader he always wanted to be, but unfortunately for Megatron all this plan fell apart and he had to resort to back ups consistently.
     
  8. Predakign2000

    Predakign2000 Transformers Fan Since 1984

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    Don't think too hard about it. Just watch the really cool explosions and oogle the hot chicks.... That's all Bay films are really good for.
     
  9. toaprime

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    This is how I see it (lengthy post time):
    The Creators use the Seed to make transformanium on Earth.

    A young Megatron is taught and swayed by the Fallen to aggressively expand Cybertron's influence, which causes OP and Sentinel to rise up with the Autobots to stand against the Cons.

    The sides are about evenly matched, but the Autobots cannot stand against the Cons for long. Thus, still seeking revenge against Earth and wanting to win the war, the Fallen reveals Earth's location so that Megatron can get the energon needed to beat the Autobots.

    At the same time Sentinel makes the truce to go to Earth with Megatron to go to Earth, with Soundwave in the know. However, the Cons accidently shoot down the Ark, and is believed dead, even by Megatron. The Ark still has it coordinates locked onto Earth however.

    The Autobots do capture the AllSpark, under OP, but with the Decepticons coming, are forced to launch the AllSpark, which goes to Earth as well because of the proximity of the Solar Harvester.

    Megatron goes after it first (ordered by the Fallen) and gets frozen. The other TFs leave Cybertron, after the AllSpark as well.

    Soundwave (in the 1960s), realizing that Sentinel is on the Moon, takes his troops to ensure that Sentinel is kept hidden from the public. He is there last attempt at success because he is not really a Con.

    Megatron goes for the AllSpark first, because it is the best option towards reviving Cybertron and their race. After that fails, the second best option was to find the Matrix/Solar Harvester because, while that does not create new TFs, it can sustain the existing ones longer.

    After losing in Egypt is when Soundwave tells Megatron about the last ditch effort with Sentinel on the Moon. This is shown because Soundwave was watching the Moon for years, yet Megs was wither captured or dead during this time. When was Soundwave going to tell Megs this until after ROTF? This strategy is the least effective towards fixing Cybertron's problems because it only fixes the planet, not the TFs as a race. Also, they need Earth's manpower and resources, so more Con resources need to be used, which they only wanted to do as a least resort.

    The transformanium was never brought up because Megatron is likely a "TF purist," believing that TFs should only be made on Cybertron through the AllSpark. Because they are made on Earth, they are not as powerful as Cybertronians. However, when there are no other Cybertronian Cons, Megatron (now Galvatron) resorts to using them as his army.

    Thus, there were only two coincidences, the Solar Harvester and tranformanium, with the other events around Earth being caused by the Matrix's presence on Earth.
     
  10. FeelingLuckyPnk

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    When is everyone gonna realise megatron is like the school bully after your lunch money! He doesn't actually have a real reason just a shit load of coincidences he just wants earth and he will have anyone's help in getting it lol.
     
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    Hahaha!! That was hilarious!!
     
  13. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    This has always been one of my biggest gripes with the films. They don't plan this out from the start. Each moving contradicts the previous one.
     
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    But if you look at it honestly the movies have actually been connected....as has been mentioned before. Its just that prime keeps screwing everything up for megs so he moved onto the next phase. I think if his plans worked they would have followed this pattern...he wanted to create an army tf1 to prepare for the fallens arrival ala allspark, which if he did would enslave humanity ready for his arrival, the fallen arrives rotf and proceeds to darken the earth which would have limited our survivabilty and prob would have became dependant on the decepticons for survival, once a new bigger army had been created here on earth and humans enslaved he would have awoken sentinel prime had him kill the fallen sort out the fixing of cybertron via the space bridge deal then killed him when the work was nearing completion leaving megs in soul command!

    See not that tough to get ya head round when you take ol face taker out the picture :) 
     
  15. uruseiranma

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    There have been times after the second film I was wondering, "do Cybertronians in this universe ever go anywhere else?"

    Red: You will be sent to a planet so mysterious, no one has even heard of it!

    Purple: Right! And those who have heard of it... dare not speak its name!

    Zim: What's its name?

    Purple: Oh, I dare not speak it!
     
  16. Leather Elbows

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    This is the worst thing about the movies for me. There is no continuity which is why I want a reboot with a new director and or writer. Just redo the backstory and stick with it.
     
  17. Omega Charge

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    The Decepticons seem like some master tacticians. I can just imagine Megatron, Soundwave, and whoever else is close to Megatron in quiet, dark rooms, in discussion for hours, laying out eloquent plans for almost any foreseeable circumstance. All the treachery, plots, war games... it's like a Cybertronian Game of Thrones. :lol 
     
  18. bellpeppers

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    Created by the Alspark, or hatched?
    Born or built?
     
  19. knightmare6

    knightmare6 Reflector In Disguise

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    If only Cybertron had OnStar... (or any other GPS!)
     
  20. LegendAntihero

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    I think that's about it. I can't think of anything that happened before Bumblebee landed