With the Main Autobot base gone and Beast being bought in to Hunt Autobots would there be a chance of the Rescue Bots provideing Shelter/Backup for Team Prime?

 

No

 

No. Optimus has specifically said that the Rescue Bots are not ready for real action.

 

Maybe.

 

As nice as it would be to see the Rescue Bots in Prime, I really doubt it will happen. Despite supposedly being the same continuity they specifically designed Rescue Bots to be a separate entity to Prime.
I also believe that Optimus hates Heatwave.

 

There is a chance, and although I would love for the Rescue Bots to cameo in TFP, I can't see it happening.

I did have an idea for what they could/could've done, so I'll just whore out my idea one more time.  

*Note, I wrote this idea before the season finale aired, so obviously there are things that can't happen/won't happen/have already happened because of the way the episode played out.

EDIT: Wow, re-reading my idea now that the finale has aired makes me realize that it's pretty much all rendered obsolete at this point.   Okay, so maybe just an episode or two where the Rescue Bots cameo to help search for Wheeljack or Optimus or somebody. Maybe have it be a little arc about sending just Heatwave to try and earn his place on Team Prime (since he seems to be the most eager and capable of the four), only for the two-parter to end with Heatwave himself making the decision to stay with the Rescue Bots/Griffin Rock. "It's not all it's cracked up to be" and whatnot, you know?

With Team Prime scattered in season three, that sort of leaves Jack, Miko, Raf and Fowler alone on Earth just twiddling their thumbs, bot from a story standpoint and from the audience's POV. So, what if Optimus had contacted the Rescue Bots and asked them to look after the kids? Blades with Miko (for the lulz), Boulder with Raf, Chase with Jack and Heatwave with Fowler. PERFECT. And, what if Megatron sends Soundwave to search for the Autobot. Soundwave vs. Rescue Bots awesomeness ensues. Maybe throw some surviving MECH agents/Silas in there too somehow just to make it a cool two-parter episode.

I think that (again, depending on what the writers have planned) a simple two-parter episode arc featuring Soundwave, the Rescue Bots and the kids/Fowler could work quite well. Heck, if they wanted to skimp on the budget and just have Heatwave and Blades show up in TFP, that'd work too. There's even a potential for a Chief Burns role.

Optimus: "Chief Burns..."
Chief Burns: "Optimus, hello. This is an...unexpected call. Is everything all right?"
Optimus: "I'm afraid not." [Optimus could go on to explain the situation to Burns, or it could cut to the title sequence and merely be implied that Optimus explains it]
Optimus: "It would just be for a brief period of time until my team and I can...sort out this recent problem."
Chief Burns: "If you're sure about this, I'm sure."
Optimus: "If you're uncomfortable with this, I understand. I would not want to place you or Griffin Rock in peril."
Chief Burns: "Nonsense. Things have been pretty quiet lately. If anyone asks, I'll just say that Heatwave and Blades are "getting a tune-up", as it were." *chuckles* "Besides, they could use the break. See the mainland, meet some new friends."
Optimus: "Thank you, Chief Burns. I'll send you coordinates for the base. Over and out."
Chief Burns: "Over and out, Optimus."

And then of course, cut back to the base after whatever events need to be established and suddenly you have a CGI Heatwave rolling into the base ("Humph. This is their base? What a dump. Not much of a view.") and a CGI Blades landing on the helipad ("Uh, guys? Hello? Where's the door? It's pretty windy up here. Guys?"). Boom, done deal. A grand total of 30 seconds to basically set everything up and bring everyone up to speed. Depending on how events play out, Optimus could've made this arrangement under the assumption that there's no chance anything could go wrong. How could he know Soundwave might be dispatched and attack the base? For all Optimus is concerned, all of the 'Cons are busy on Cybertron. And of course, hijinks would ensue and we'd see that someone should've knocked on wood pertaining to "things being quiet" and so on.  

 

If there's any crossover to be done, it would be done in the Rescue Bots show. Personally I'd love to see one of the Autobot teams (Arcee/Jack, Bulkhead/Miko or Bumblebee/Raf) pass through Griffin Rock, stay the night or whatever, just for one episode since they need to stay on the move.

 

the rescue bots had trouble fighting a single morbot while bumble bee and optimus defeated like 100 of them. 2 jet vehicons could probably kill all the team rescue lol. Not sure if team prime is willing to put the rescue bots in danger

 

I really hope Smokescreen appears in Rescue Bots. I mean, he left the base alone, I don't see a reason why he can't just pass by, considering they can't stop moving.

 

In my opinion, based on your idea, Smokescreen would be the most logical choice. Of the characters, he seems like he'd fit in the best with the Rescue Bots. The young, relatively inexperienced up-and-coming soldier who wants to prove himself.

Insinuating that the Vehicons are a threat?     If the writers wanted the Rescue Bots to hold their own against Vehicons, they could. Boulder bulldozes (pardon the pun) through them, Blades clumsily outsmarts them in the air, Heatwave pummels them on the ground, Chase out-maneuvers them on the road. If they want it to happen, it can happen (onlyontheHUB). Obviously if Megatron shows up they'd be screwed, but that's why they wouldn't have to meet Megatron. There are dozens of things that the writers could do if they wanted the Rescue Bots to appear in TFP; or even to have anyone from Rescue Bots in TFP, be it a brief cameo or a larger role. Chief Burns on a monitor speaking with Optimus, Dr. Morocco and a MECH team-up (unlikely at this point, given events of episodes prior), Heatwave being enlisted to help find the Autobots, a team-up on the battle field all Avengers-styled. Heck, a namedrop of anyone from RB could work. The possibilities are endless.

As for the "put the Rescue Bots in danger"-thing, again, it doesn't have to be willingly throwing them to the dogs.

Example #1: The camera focuses on the burning rubble of the Autobot base. A severely damaged computer monitor lays amongst the debris. It flickers on. A scratchy image and a faint voice fade in and out. "Optimus. Optimus, are you there? Come in! I saw what happened in Jasper on the news. Are you all right? Optimus, come in! I've sent you some back-up just in case you need help. Hold on, Optimus. Help's on the way." *cut to opening TFP theme*

Chief Burns doesn't really know about the Decepticon threat (that we know of), so in his mind, he's merely sending the Rescue Bots (or just Heatwave or whoever) to aid the Autobots in their time of need. Who's better to help rescue the Autobots than the RESCUE BOTS, eh? He's not deliberately putting them in harm's way. (Plus, if anyone on the RB team can hold their own, it's Heatwave.)

Example #2: A damaged Optimus races away from the destroyed base. He can't seem to contact anyone on Team Prime. He can't track them, can't get a hold of them, he has no idea where they are. Once he finds shelter, he manages to get an open comm line. "Ugh, Chief Burns? Come in. This is Optimus Prime. We Autobots are scattered, in hiding. The Decepticons have taken over Jasper and I require all the help I can get in locating the rest of my team." *cut to opening TFP theme*

Optimus isn't ordering the Rescue Bots to help fight the war, he just needs more eyes in the sky to locate the other Autobots. They could be anywhere. Four additional Transformers scouring the globe to find them would prove very beneficial to Optimus. Plus, you could always have Optimus throw in a caveat of "If any of you Rescue Bots comes in contact with a Decepticon, do not engage them in battle. Retreat, try to escape."

Both examples are exciting ways to introduce the RB into the TFP world, at the same time making it a "locate the rest of Team Prime"-arc that could easily be resolved in two episodes (as most of us would probably agree will happen anyway   ), as to not overload TFP with the Rescue Bots influence. As I said, if the writers want the Rescue Bots in TFP - in some form or another - they can make it happen merely by putting pen to paper.

 

Heatwave would probably be the only Rescue Bots character that could handle the real life grittiness of Prime's die and stay dead atmosphere.

He and Arcee would make a great team.

 

See, and that's all that would be needed too. I'm not saying that there has to be an all-out, no-holds-barred, everybody-meets-everybody super epic crossover. Consider the things that have spilled over from TFP into Rescue Bots:

-Optimus Prime checking in on them every once in a while
-Bumblebee appearing twice
-Namedropping of "Decepticons" by Bumblebee
-A reference to Ratchet ("...our medic...").

Two major characters in a recurring role, and then a few ambiguous references. It's not too much that it takes away from it being the RESCUE BOTS' show, but it's just enough to let everyone know that - even though they may not interact with everyone or everything - these two shows do share the same world. If the only Rescue Bot crossover cameo is Heatwave showing up for a single episode to be partnered with Arcee, then so be it. A little bit of TFP has spilled into Rescue Bots, so now let a little bit of Rescue Bots spill into TFP. That's just my wish.  

 

Me too.

 

I actually thought the same thing, if you check the Rescue Bot forums. I speculated that Heatwave would actually have a crush on Arcee!

As for bringing in the Rescue Bots???

I don't think it would happen. Despite how bad it is, Prime would not allow the Rescue Bots to put themselves at such risk of being discovered and as far as we know, Megatron doesn't know about the Autobot Rescue Team and I'm fairly positive Prime wants to keep it that way.

From the way it sounded in the first episode of Rescue Bots 'Family of Heroes', Rescue Team Sigma 7 is, as far as we know, the only Cybertronian Rescue Team left and I think I have one theory as to why; Megatron, in the course of the war, wiped them out because of their function as search and rescue teams. I suspect he saw them as being in the way and wanted to ensure that the Autobots were as crippled and demoralized as possible. I actually wouldn't be surprised of Ratchet himself led one or more rescue teams in the course of the war.

From that first encounter, it's pretty obvious that the Rescue Bots never got to see much, if anything, of the war itself. Which makes me wonder if they were stationed in one or more of the Neutral cities in the early days of the war. If that's the case, it would explain the absence of weapons for them as things had not gotten so desperately serious yet. It may have been the destruction of a Neutral city and/or Megatron specifically targeting Rescue Teams that prompted Autobot Command to have the team placed in stasis and sent off into space.

In short; Prime clearly went to a lot of effort to ensure the Rescue Bots were in a location that wouldn't be detected by the Decepticons and where they would be out of the crossfire of the war. He is not going to jeopardize their safety and those of Griffin Rock's residents (namely the Burns family and the Greenes) by bringing them into the middle of a war that just got 10x more dangerous for everyone involved. They are not warriors, they're civilians. What they do is also of importance and considering how much things have spiraled downward, it will be all the more vital.

Why? Because if the 'Bot's and 'Con's have become public knowledge, they will need Heatwave and his team to act as 'goodwill ambassadors' for the Autobots to show that they-namely the Autobots- mean humanity no harm and actually want to help and protect.

I could see Smokescreen making an appearance and learning more about humans. They aren't going to take it too well when they hear the base is gone and the other 'Bot's have scattered. They're especially going to be upset when they hear about the Omega Lock and how Prime was forced to destroy it to save Earth. Heatwave, I can imagine, will be especially furious and rant how he could have helped if Prime had allowed it.

Okay, that was a LOT longer than I intended.

 

I totally understand the "Optimus wouldn't put them in harms way"-side of things, but as I said before...

If Chief Burns for some reason doesn't know about the Decepticons and only knows that Team Prime is in danger, him sending the RESCUE BOTS to RESCUE Team Prime seems like a logical move. They don't even have to have Optimus condone it, Chief Burns could do it on his own authority. It's no different than sending a second squad of policemen downtown to aid in the rescue of the first squad who got caught off guard. Plus, it's not like Heatwave will be walking around forests and Blades will be swimming in lakes to look for Team Prime. It'll merely be four emergency vehicles driving/flying around looking for the Autobots.

And I know I'm going to get some flack when I say this, but Optimus' track record of decision-making as been helter-skelter at best. He may want to keep the Rescue Bots secret and safe, but if they're one of his best chances for helping to locate Team Prime, I can see him calling in the favour.

That brings up an interesting point. It seems logical that Megatron might try to wipe out the Rescue teams, but at the same time, it could work out better for him if he didn't destroy them. It's obvious that they're function is to SEARCH for Autobots to RESCUE them. If Megatron could track the Rescue Bots, they'd lead him to other Autobots, whom he'd then attempt to destroy. Let the Rescue Teams lead him to other Autobots. Two birds with one stone.

And this has the opportunity to be one of those references that I talked about. Having Ratchet say something like "I passed on most of my skills when I was stationed with Rescue Team Sigma 7 in the Sonic Canyons" or whatever. A minor reference that you'd miss if you yawned, but it's just one of those things that'd make you sit there and say "Hey!...".

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that having the Rescue Bots in TFP is doable in multiple different ways. All of it stems from the fact that if they wanted to, they can, no problem. I guess it all boils down to me being an immature man-child who gets upset when he doesn't get what he wants.   I mean, it's basically the "if you're not going to do something interesting with it, don't bother setting it up". Chekov's Gun. They've told us that Rescue Bots and TFP takes place in the same continuity, in the same world, in the same universe. And that's cool. But other than the brief list I mentioned above (of RB things), nothing much as really come of it. Why bother teasing us with "Yep, they're in the same world. When Optimus isn't with Team Prime, he's chatting with the Rescue Bots", teasing us with the potential of a more awesome crossover if you're not going to bother to take it any further than "HEY KIDS DON'T FORGET ABOUT BUYING YOUR OPTIMUS PRIME AND BUMBLEBEE TOYS!"? They're dangling the carrot. Don't say "I have a story to tell you" if you don't plan of telling that story, you know?

 

I'm fairly certain that Optimus Prime made it a point to tell Chief Burns about the Decepticons (he'd have to if he's going to be taking Autobots into his care) and his reasons for not allowing the Rescue Bots to join up with Team Prime and how vital it is that the team stay under the radar.

Optimus Prime:(to Chief Burns) In the event that anything should happen to myself or Team Prime, I must ask you, Chief Burns, to not allow the Rescue Bots to come to our aid.

Chief Burns:(stunned) Prime, if you're in danger...

Optimus Prime: Then it is something we must deal with. As much appreciated as any aid from them would be, I fear it would only escalate matters and play to Megatron's favor. Were he to learn of the existence of the Rescue Bots, he would make every effort to trace them back to Griffin Rock, thereby placing your family-and the entire population-in great danger.

Chief Burns:(sighs in resignation) I understand, Prime.

If news of what happened reaches Griffin Rock (and there's no question it will), the Bot's, despite wanting to help, will have to stay put. Aside from the fact that they wouldn't even know where to start looking for the other Bot's, it would also take them away form their duties as a rescue unit and they will not abandon it. Prime would want that to be their first priority. And there really isn't much they can do against the 'Con's anyway.

That would actually be very cool  

I'm not saying it's entirely impossible, but it is unlikely that the Rescue Bots will make an appearance in TF: P. Because if they do, you would have to account for it in 'Rescue Bots' and they've made it very clear that the Decepticons will NOT be involved in any way in that show.

Maybe Heatwave will make an appearance in 'Prime', seeing as he's the most eager to get involved. IF he does show up and is paired with Arcee, I'd like to see him bring Kade along, if for no other reason than to see how he and Jack get along.

Kade's been described as 'Flash Thompson' and Jack as 'Peter Parker'. I think they'd get on each others nerves; Jack would be annoyed by Kade's grandstanding and obnoxiousness and Kade would be put off by Jack's over-developed sense of responsibility and, in his eyes, 'wimpy-ness'. And if he learned that a kid like Jack was entrusted with something as important as the Key to Vector Sigma, he'd get green with envy and want know 'what's so special about THIS kid when Prime could'a asked an adult like ME???' Fun times!  

 

But that's where the drama comes in!   Chief Burns decides to take matters into his own hands, maybe Heatwave overhears the conversation and decides to head-out looking for them, who knows? (I actually really like that "Heatwave overhears the conversation"-idea, personally)

Easy fix. Chief Burns (or Heatwave) decides - on his own - to defy Optimus' orders, believing it to be of greater importance that Optimus and his team are aided, Heatwave and/or Blades are dispatched. "Griffin Rock will have to make due with only two Rescue Bots for the next little while."

But again, that's where the magic of the writers basically doing whatever they want can come into play. If Optimus and Bumblebee can show up in RB and drive through MorBots like cardboard, or throw construction material at them (as opposed to say, shooting them with guns or punching them apart), then there's no reason why the Rescue Bots couldn't do something similar. They obviously don't have weapons, but how many times have we seen Heatwave doing his martial arts-thang with that wooden-Jackie-Chan-thing (forgive my lack of knowledge   )? Boom. Right there, Heatwave is an established hand-to-hand fighter. Imagine a hand-to-hand battle between Heatwave and Soundwave, eh? No guns, just fists. And we all know that Heatwave is just itching for some field experience. What better way to test it than by being put into the field when Team Prime has reached the last rung? Or my other examples, Boulder driving over Vehicons, Blades clumsily out-manoeuvring them in the air, Chase out-driving them on the road. If they want the Rescue Bots to competent enough to - at a minimum hold their own - they can. They won't be expected to slaughter the 'Cons, just survive. Scenes like that could be catered to showing that while they're holding their own, their by no means gaining any ground. Cue having Arcee give Heatwave back-up, or Bumblebee jumping into to help Blades.

They wouldn't necessarily have to account for it in Rescue Bots. Has their been any mention of time-travel, Dr. Morocco, Griffin Rock or the Rescue Bots in TFP thusfar? Nope. Yet those events played big parts in the lives of Optimus and Bumblebee. A two-parter where Heatwave and Blades help out Team Prime would be just like the season finale of Rescue Bots: a contained event that as-of-yet has not been referenced in the other series. If they decided not to mention it in RB, then we'd all just have to assume that they went and returned safely, same way Optimus can disappear from Jasper and return with no mention of where he's been. Obviously we'd like them to mention it, but there's no rule stating they'd have to. They have their crossover episode(s) and that's it. Done deal. Open and shut. Maybe reference it in the future if we're lucky, but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

And they don't need to be. I don't want Decepticons in Rescue Bots. But this wouldn't be the case. This would be Rescue Bots in TFP. It's the Rescue Bots that are now entering the world of the Decepticons. They're aware of Decepticons (to some extent) already thanks to the RB season finale. Decepticons stay out of RB, but with Rescue Bots cameoing in TFP, they'd quite possibly run into them (though honestly, the writers could swing it so that their cameo would be Decepticon-less, merely an entire episode focused on finding Team Prime).

It's like you said, it's not entirely impossible, just unlikely. And I agree that it's unlikely. I'm just trying to prove that they totally could do it.

And this would be awesome. So. Much. Crossover. Potential.

 

I feel like that would be pushing it. There are limits to what a writer can and should push.

Should Heatwave be pushed as a great fighter??? Maybe he has to potential to be one, but his marital arts practice on that wooden dummy is just that. Practice. It doesn't mean he's going to make it in a real fight. Wheeljack, a battle-hardened warrior, a Wrecker, went up against Soundwave and barely made it out intact.

Heatwave??? He would get wasted inside a minute, if that.

So no, putting Heatwave up against someone of Soundwave's level would be like putting an ant against a pitbull. The ant would pinch, but the pitbull would just step on the ant, no problem.

That's the thing, though; they wouldn't survive in a real fight against the 'Con's. I think you're expecting WAAY too much of not only the Rescue Bots, but the writers, as well. Even IF they decide to have one or more of the Rescue Bot's make an appearance in 'Prime', they aren't going to make them into this... don't know what you wanna call it, but they would get taken down all too quickly.

Yeah.   I could also see Jack being annoyed and angry with Kade if he's being flippant or even 'macho' about the whole thing. All of his family is safe and sound on Griffin Rock, while Jack's doesn't know where his friends are and is worried sick about his mother. I can see Arcee or Heatwave taking Kade to task about that.

 

I fully admit that "great" was a poor choice of words on my part. I couldn't find an adequate term for it. I'm not saying he's the best, I'm trying to say that... he's adequate? Competent? Has the potential? Do you get why I'm trying to say?   Not great, but it's not like he's completely defenseless.

All right, maybe not against Soundwave, but I'm sure he could hold his own against a Vehicon or two if they wanted. (I just wanted to see another Soundwave battle is all.   )

Based on the way the series has handled multiple characters and plot points, I'd say that the writers just flat out don't give a f**k sometimes.   I know the series isn't over, but if they can spend an entire season on a relic hunt, have Unicron appear in the first season finale as the "OMG biggest most epic thing evar!" with virtually no mention of him in the second season, "solve" the Silasdown arc in such a lacklustre way, have Megatron make some of the stupidest decisions he could make, have Optimus be a piss poor commander, then I don't think "having the Rescue Bots show up and beat some vehicons" would be a stretch. But that's just me.

And it goes back to the "dozens of ways of doing things"-thing. They can swing it so that they don't encounter any Decepticons. A two-parter where it's a race to find Team Prime. Predaking and the Rescue Bots, both searching for Team Prime. The Rescue Bots win the search and go back to Griffin Rock. They serve their purpose, reunite Team Prime, meet and greet and then leave. Or heck, have the last part of the episode be a nice little montage of showing Team Prime "training" the Rescue Bots. Show Bulkhead teaching Boulder how to lift or throw things better (lobbing, anyone?), show Arcee and Heatwave training on the karate dumby, Bumblebee showing Chase some sweet driving moves to help increase efficiency or something. They're not teaching them how to kill things, but they're given them more skill, more practice.

It's all about how you change the characters when they go into what could be considered an entirely different "medium" or "genre". If Optimus and Bumblebee are "toned down" for their appearance in Rescue Bots (designs obviously, no guns, no "kill everything"), it can work conversely as well; the Rescue Bots can be "toned up" (is that even a phrase?   ) for an appearance in TFP. I'd assume that Heatwave in TFP would be very similar to the way Smokescreen acts/behaves. He's no defenceless noob, but you can tell he's definitely not as experienced as Bulkhead or Arcee. You're basically putting each series through a filter when you have them cross over into a different series. They're not changed into entirely different characters or doing anything you wouldn't expect them to, it's just increasing or decreasing them by a fraction. You "simplify" TFP characters when they go into RB, but you "beef up" RB characters if they go into TFP land.

I'm not expecting any more from the characters or writers than any other fan would of any other series.   If everyone else can make their threads and wishes about "why can't the writers do this in the movies?!", "why couldn't character X do this in TFA?", "why couldn't they just spin the story this way instead of that way?", then I deserve that chance too!  

 

I have a feeling that Rescue Bots takes place after Prime or before Darkness Rising.