Could the G1 toy bio/tech spec fiction be considered its own continuity?

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  1. TFFan01

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    Would it be like how Marvel and Sunbow are seperate or would it be a part of the Marvel continuity?
     
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    It is its own little continuity, no question about it. It doesn't line up right with Marvel or Sunbow. Pretty open and shut question.
     
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    Nuff said

    Shortest topic in history
     
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    It's HBs. Done by Budianski who was part of Marvel Comics.
     
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    For G1 toys those bio specs are about as official and original as it gets
     
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    I still think whenever they sit down and reboot the series that THOSE bios should be the 'Bible' they start with.

    Actually good G1 redux when?
     
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    I especially like how those were published in Marvel book too, then the same writer who was making them didn't use them in his stories anyway. XD
     
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    He did, but not in their entirety. I know he must have referenced those bios (that he wrote first) to inform the characters he defined. Starscream, Optimus Prime, Shockwave, and Bumblebee off the top of my head as far as bio--->comic connectivity goes. Any character who displays any personality at all has that personality cherry picked from the bio, so in that sense they've served their purpose.
     
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    Trypticon is smart in his bio and dumb everywhere else,
     
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    That’s not correct.....he had at least average smarts in the original Marvel tf comic

    What do you mean by “bio”?
    His tech spec or the Marvel Transformers Universe entry?
     
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    Tech Spec, where he had an intelligence of a 7 which is the exact same as Starscream's intelligence and 2 short of Megatron's total of 9
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up
     
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    So trypticon isnt a dummy or average intelligence. Dude was smarter than it was shown. Hell the bio has some interspective on his thoughts on the war and his role in it
     
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    Presumably the Tech specs are based on the earliest treatments for each character, Ratchet's enjoyment of parties is a thing mentioned in one of the earliest description for him but is never really seen in the stories themselves. Similarly, Soundwave is presented as a two-faced snitch rather than a monotone brown noser, each of the Dinobots had a unique personality, Shockwave is described as basically being Megatron's equal who only follows him because it seems like the best choice at the moment rather than a loyalist who stays behind and watches over Cybertron.

    In all honesty the Tech specs often had better characters than the cartoon had due to how rushed the shows bible was. Thankfully the Marvel comics had more time to develop them.
     
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    Dummy no, but the rating system was very off and sometimes relative

    for example, take a look at the speed ratings on any of the Seekers then look up G1 Blurr.....there’s no way Blurr is faster then any of the Jets

    an other example is with strength, there’s no way Optimus or Megatron are as strong as Omega Supreme or Metroplex

    A 7 might not be all that bright since we don’t know exactly what it’s being compared Against
     
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    I believe somebody answered this question above but it’s quite simple

    That Japanese special was extremely short and made in a very short amount of time, the movie was in production from almost the early of the year before

    The guys working on the movie were not aware of the Existence of the upcoming metroplex toy
     
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    The toy definitely was its own continuity. In G1, its fiction came from several sources:
    -The toy profiles & tech-specs
    -The toy commercials, as they usually had 5 seconds of animation story, even if this was animated by Sunbow
    -The catalog blurbs, which came with the toy
    -Any extra info which may have been mentioned in the toy instruction manual

    The Sunbow cartoon and Marvel comic had their own continuities. Of these 2, the toy continuity matched alot more with the comic, than the cartoon.

    An interesting toy where they all differed greatly was Fortress Maximus.
    The toy had 3 main living components: Fortress Maximus, Cerebros, and Spike. (not including the extra guys like Gasket, Cog)

    The comic only had Fortress Maximus and Spike (previously Galen) as the living components. Cerebros was an unliving robot power-suit created for Spike to get bigger.

    The cartoon had Cerebros and Spike as the living beings. Fortress Maximus was the unliving city/station/robot power-suit which Spike built for himself & Cerebros to Transform with.
     
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    So... does that mean the toys are their own little universe?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Comic story;Cerebros was actually made for Galen, Spike didn’t enter the picture untill later in the issue

    cartoon story: just food for thought, Fortress spoke with his own voice, so did Scorponok

    it’s possible that between Cerebros and Spike’s combined knowledge, and the advanced tech in the Hives old city, they were able to give Fortress “life”

    Again, just a thought
     
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