Copyright case could threaten eBay and garage sales

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  1. I AM MEGATRON

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    The real crime is the price that textbook publisher charge American students, I smell a counter suit.
     
  3. Tyjos

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    I hate stuff like this, I mean seriously this is like shooting yourself in the foot there if you ask me...[The larger implications that is that might result from this]

    But Ignoring that sort of Copyright stuff.....Still one big Headdesk to me.
     
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    What the kid did was technically illegal and should have no true impact on eBay or garage sales (especially garage sales where items sold aren't tracked). The kid was running a get-rich-quick scheme and it doesn't matter that he was using the money to pay for school. He still broke the law. He saw the copyright notice and just decided it didn't apply to him. I'm sorry, but laws exist for a reason.

    My opinion here does not mean that I support the high cost of textbooks and a persons ability to acquire them from oversees, yadda yadda yadda. I just don't think he should have been reselling them like that for profit.
     
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    This'll be interesting!
     
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    Oh for cryin out loud :throw  People are idiots

    And in the spirit of this thread, I just have to use this smiley- :scalper 
     
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    You know with how things are lately, I'd have to fully agree with you there.
     
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    My mother is a garage sale criminal!! lmao
     
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    The kid is at fault...no need to blame eBay.
     
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    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't take legal advice from the internet, especially where media concerns are involved.

    I could see this still affecting mass importation for profit, but if anyone tried to get courts to rule for enforcement on ebay or on garage sales, I like to hope they'd be laughed out of court.

    I find it interesting that importation is supposedly illegal, but I guess that's simply the state of international licensing.
     
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    but, you're from the internet, at least from where I'm sitting...and now I don't know whether this is one of your interweb tricks...
     
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    Come to think of it, I wonder if this was why eBay took down my RE6 Anthology DLC auction. They said it was, "Copyright Violation"

    Why? I dunno....
     
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    I believe Ebay was the last outpost of freetrade. This year will be the first year you will be given a paypal document for your income taxes. Up until this point it was your personal obligation to report your earnings (no matter the size) to the IRS. Most people likely do not report those earnings, but things are changing across the board. Ebay will be involved in the process, and I am willing to bet you will see more cases like this, until eventually ebay will lose their competitive nature as a marketplace. It will still be around, but it won't be the same.
     
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    So what if some Asian guy got a homey hook up for textbooks and made a hundred thousand? I think that's awesome. Not only that but he cut out some of the middle men like distributors and stores so the customer saves money.
     
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    Awesome! :D 
     
  18. I AM MEGATRON

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    What I took from this is if (and this is a big IF) something like this were to be passed...could you imagine the problems with secondary market sales? Would you now no longer be able to put 'used' on items for sale on the net? And if you only sold new items, does that mean they'd have to come straight from the manufacturer? What if you were selling a MISB/MOSC item..if you didnt get it from the manufacturer would that now be illegal (i.e. Bought it at target,etc.)....hmm...it would kill the scalping trade....lol..

    All sounds like rubbish I gotta admit..but just some of the trends that have been picking up steam lately, might have to still keep an eye on this.
     
  19. Metroplex79

    Metroplex79 Hey mouse, say cheese!

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    First...a face palm.

    Second...a snarky remark:
    Maybe if we were all illiterate, we wouldn't need books to worry about copyrights.
    :rolleyes2  :p 

    Third...a question:
    Would this law apply if copyrighted material was given away for free? You're not profitting from this action, so can a publisher sue you for "damages"?
     
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    Actually it would have a major impact in reselling items. What the bottom line here is the Supreme Court will be deciding whether or not the First Sale Doctrine applies to items manufactured whole or in part overseas. If they rule in favor of this book company, they would give just about every manufacturer liscense to sue someone into oblivion for putting their secondhand products up on Ebay or Craigs List or whatnot.

    It would also give companies incentive to move their US manufacturing operations overseas, taking jobs with it.