Concept - Vehicon defects

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by citoria, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. citoria

    citoria Lord Dragon Master

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    I'm not sure how well it would fit into season 3, but I think there could be an awesome episode focused on 1 vehicon who decided to join the Autobots.

    The episode could start with a typical day of a vehicon, until it focus on one.

    This one sees the autobots, sees what they are doing for earth, seeing what they are doing for each other. Then he will reflect back on the decepticons.

    They are fighting a war, still fighting after their planet had been destroyed. What were they fighting for? What happened to their cause. Now they are just attempting to cause harm and innocent planet, while the Autobots defend it.

    Finally the vehicon would leave, as his friends try to get him to come back.

    Now of course the autobots don't trust him, dispite his plea that he needs a cause worthy of fighting for again.

    Although they don't accept him into the base, Optimus gives him a communication device to be called upon when they need him. As optimus ground bridges away, the vehicon turns and puts a scratch through the decepticon symbol on his chest.

    ;) 

    What do ya think?
     
  2. Shatterpoint

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    I've never liked this concept.

    So no.
     
  3. citoria

    citoria Lord Dragon Master

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    What don't you like about the concept? Bad guy defects as he doesn't believe in his cause? Bet yet one who was just a generic solider.
     
  4. Bountyan

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    Sure, why not.
     
  5. Shatterpoint

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    It's just so, generic.

    Plus, these guys are just drones. Whatever "personalities" they form are just artificial, like the Droids from Star Wars.
     
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    Well, if one did defect at least he would be able to get the "character shield" that almost all the Autobots have and not die in a single shot.
     
  7. RayTheSun

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    Well, they have sparks, so presumably they're just regular transformers with a uniform body. Like the Autotroopers from other continuities.
     
  8. Jakest123

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    I guess they're clones, as they're probably mass-fabricated. Insecticons are harder to come by which is why they are more sparsely used.
    It'd be even more interesting to see an Insecticon defect. An intelligent one, like Hardshell.
     
  9. Bountyan

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    Nothing in the show proves that. They seem to work like everyone else. If they were just drones Optimus wouldn't have been so opposed to killing that miner mook in Stronger, Faster.
     
  10. Shatterpoint

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    That was more of Ratchet going crazy than anything else.

    And nothing in the show disproves my theory either.
     
  11. Bountyan

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    Prime explicitly stated not to kill him because he wasn't a warrior. If it was a soulless drone he wouldn't have cared either way. Plus the spark extractor proved they have sparks like everyone else, so I don't see why they'd be somehow different.
     
  12. Shatterpoint

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    Because the miners have no form of defense.

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    None whatsoever.
     
  13. Space Jawa

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    If Optimus hadn't destroyed the Omega Lock, I could see it happening.

    But after what the leader of the Autobots did, I think the Vehicons are going to be more committed to Megatron than ever before.
     
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    I think for a lot of folks the problem with doing that for a Vehicon is while it's both commonly seen in this kinda stuff for the grunt to say "screw it" and join the good guys, it also brings up the issue that it gives personality and substance to enemies that are killed in droves. Suddenly destroying generic drones becomes a massacre.
     
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    I've thought of something like that before. Except it was more of that the Vehicons were really captured Autobots that got captured and reformatted and had a Vehicon program virus that changes the spark.

    I would have one that battles Prime and is exposed to the Matrix, which destroys the virus and restores the spark. As well as reformatting the body into a merger between the Vehicon car body and the Autobot's old body and call the character Hot Rod.
     
  16. Bountyan

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    IDK. That's Optimus' logic during that episode. But if it was a drone he never would have cared in the first place. He said Autobots don't inflict harm unless absolutely necessary, but it's not really harming anyone if it's a drone.
     
  17. Shatterpoint

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    I still think he cared more that Ratchet was torturing him.

    Drone or not, that's not how the Autobots do things.
     
  18. Bountyan

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    Then at that point, why it would it matter if they're "drones" joining Autobots or not? If they're not sentient then it's just silly to care about torturing a mindless object (oh no, Ratchet is torturing the material he's welding to make Optimus' sword holster!), and if they are sentient to the point where it's bad to torture them it's not really that different from adding a named character.