Combiner Wars All Eight Episodes on Hasbro's Youtube

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by AzT, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. Smasher

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    Awesome? You're about to say "awesome", right?
    Because "They're gonna built -an ARMY OF COMBINERTH!" is the best line ever.
     
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    It's a joke.
     
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    Hahaha. Even I could do a decent enough job...
     
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  4. Nevermore

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    Well, the Combiner Wars comic book is a completely different story unrelated to the cartoon other than its title and some characters appearing in both, so...
     
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    I wouldn't say it's all terrible. It's just really short and has really low production values. The minute they mentioned Machinema I knew it was a lost cause.

    Episodes were only 5 minutes long, and they released them one at a time so you had to wait a week to see the next one, and you could only watch them on Go90, an app I could not find a single program worth watching.

    Ultimately I don't think it was so bad as to get worked up over it and I don't take major issue with the writing or the performance. The animation even had it's moments. But using Machinima is always going to be a huge handicap. I see shows like Amazon's The Tick and Netflix's Voltron and can't help but think what could have been.

    And I'd still rank it higher then current RiD.
     
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  6. samisham

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    It's a WAY better story though, even though IDW has done WAY better.
     
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    I wasn't arguing that. I was just arguing that one shouldn't make the mistake of assuming the Combiner Wars cartoon and the Combiner Wars comic tell the same basic story, just in a different medium, because that's not even remotely accurate. So "should I read or watch it" is a question where the very premise of the question is based on faulty assumptions.
     
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  8. UltraAlanMagnus

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    TeamFourStar folks. The Simple answer to make Combiner Wars watchable more than ever.
     
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    That game had prominent mouth lines too.
     
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    All that ever saved this for me was the comedy dub.
    (Whispers) I'M WINDBLADE! (/Whispers)
     
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    Isn't it the most sad thing that we mostly argue about which Hasbro offering is less terrible lately, while other fandoms just watch well made stuff (like the amazing Voltron show that you mentioned) or just casually, turn down crappy offerings in a unified voice?
     
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    My 10 year old son liked it...
     
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    At that age, I wasn't able to tell bad ficton from good fiction.

    Hell, I was totally into the Spider-Man Clone Saga at age 17.
     
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  14. j.a.f.o.

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    I *think* my 12 year old liked it. All that mattered to me was that this was another opportunity for us to spend time together.

    Personally, I thought it kinda sucked.
     
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    I don't really get why people are saying it's better than RID15. RID15 has better voice acting, better animation, structure, better humor, better villains, and the potential to bring in new fans and introduce them to Transformers, which Combiner Wars couldn't even do.
     
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    "Critically acclaimed", folks! REMEMBER! Hasbro won't stop saying it!
    Great reference! :lolol 

    But come on... the Clone Saga wasn't THAT bad! :rolleyes2  It's biggest issue was the lack of a conceivable ending - the term "wrote yourself into a corner" fits the bill. Also, did Parker REALLY need to be replaced with Reilly? Why? SHOCK value? :lol  People hate that story line because it dared to re-write the entire Spidey mythos; I enjoyed that story line because it dared to re-write the entire Spidey mythos! :p 
     
  17. Nevermore

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    I didn't mind Peter being replaced with Ben Reilly back then, and I don't mind it now. That was one of the good things about the Clone Saga.

    Its problem, in retrospect, is how it was dragged out forever with loads of pointless side quests, multi-part "events" ("Maximum Clonage") that happened only because the marketing department requested them even though they didn't contribute anything to the story, Ben's debut as the all-new, all-different Spider-Man being delayed for the sake of another marketing-driven gimmick (renamed "Scarlet Spider" titles) that featured a terrible "virtual reality" storyline, multiple fake-out endings, stupid retcons, character derailments, reveals being undone and too many other things to name. For example, that stupid Judas Traveller character was presented as this ominous supernatural character with a mysterious agenda for the longest time, and then suddenly he was written out with the revelation that he was just some lame telepath, which made many of the stories featuring him utterly pointless.

    Simply put, the problem with the Clone Saga wasn't the concept, it was the execution. Badly written individual plots, too much executive meddling screwing up many a plot idea that had potential, and never following through with an idea because someone else came up with a new direction for the story.

    Linkara of Atop The Fourth Wall reviewed several stories from the Clone Saga (he keeps doing that every year for his show's anniversaries), and does a great job at pointing out the stories' flaws. I get the impression that Lewis doesn't hate Ben as a character either, he just hates how terribly most of the stories handle him, Peter and everyone else. The villains are stupid and bland, the plots make no sense, and everything could have been told much better using up much less space. And with better artwork.

    The Clone Saga is the perfect example of way too many cooks spoiling the broth. By the time the broth was finally going to be served, none of the cooks that had added the first ingredients were even working on it anymore.
     
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    To be fair, never played it. At any rate, it looks bad on a character like Windblade who already has distinct facial markings as she is.
     
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    (Thoughtless) negative comments about this mini-series are getting so old. Get over yourselves. Prime Wars is G1; if you want some excellent fiction and animation to go along with your collection, watch G1, including Headmasters, SG Masterforce, and Victory.

    I understand the dissatisfaction, but to log-on and open this thread just for another chance at exercising lame and unoriginal sarcasm about it is beginning to appear significantly more pathetic than the show.
     
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    Yes. Wow.

    Although, in retrospect, I didn't mind the "bad art" or lengthy stories, and you have to admit that the way they stretched it all out is a testament to how successful the "horrible" Clone Saga was. But as you say, when you milk something to death, you're not getting gourmet milk anymore, are ye? :lol 

    But milking a good story? It gets done all the time, and comics are very pointless most of the time - they drone on and on to extend stories in a Soap Opera manner, leading to very few relevant plot developments that don't get undone in the next re-launch (which happens virtually every other year). It's why I got so tired of the whole thing. :(  And yeah... Judas Traveller! I remember him! :lol  Wow, they dumped that idea fast... :cry 
    But it's so fun to b*tch! :D  Especially when very FEW people will come out and argue with you about something universally disliked! :sly:  It's a safe thing to complain about! :D 
    And like I said before, you've got to understand the outright dishonesty Hasbro shows whenever they talk about how good the series is!

    If Hasbro can lie about the show over and over.... the fans cannot honestly lament or express disapproval over and over? :confused: