changes for Beast wars reboot

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  1. supernova222

    supernova222 junkion

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    ok, so i know a lot of people talk about the idea of a beast wars reboot, and even more dont like the idea. im kinda on the fence with the idea if i did it these are the changes i would make to the show/plot.
    1. the predacons would gain control of the nemesis early in the show and it would be their new base.
    2. predacons control a horde of protoforms that they use as their soilders.
    3. some characters dont come back, but have their traits added to others...
    -rampage wont be in it but his traits will be seen in tarantulas and inferno.
    -tigertron and silverbolt would not reappear either, but their traits would be split between the other maximals.
    4. instead of dinobot 2 being a clone, the real dinobot would be brainwashed into a predacon again and would be upgraded into the dinobot 2 appearence.(dont worry, he will get his memory back soon)
    5. blackarchnia eventually does abandon the predacons, but not till the end of the series and not for silverbolt since he isnt in it.
    6. not sure if i'd want quickstrike back, if he does come back it will be minor or for a short time.
    7.only 2 seasons

    others when i think of them

    UPDATE
    i've decided to have silverbolt in it, but his role will be seduced and very different. through most of season one he would be a captive on the nemesis, since his spark was to strong to be turned into a predacon, but the attempt made him a freakish fuzor, he would continue to reach out to blackarachnia's inner maximal. he would be rescued and join the maximals but i plan that he would die early to mid season 2 by sacrificing himself. his death would also leave a mark on BA that would lead to her disertion of the preds.

    please dont turn this into a reboot bashing thread, just want thouhts on my ideas!!!
     
  2. bignick1693

    bignick1693 Maximal

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    Personally I don't want a remake from what you described. If it a reboot I want it to be a westernized version of beast wars 2 and neo. I like to bring in the new and not reuse the old ( looking at you prime.)
     
  3. Rexidus

    Rexidus Autobot

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    Yeah, don't have a retelling of Beast Wars. Tell a new story with similar characters, like Prime or Animated, rather than being another G1 series.
     
  4. grimlock1972

    grimlock1972 Optimus, serving up the primest of ribs since 1984

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    No need to reboot Beast wars. id be fine with a new series set in that era though.
     
  5. Rewire

    Rewire Whiskey Grimlock

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    Why would you ever want to reboot something as completely perfect as Beast Wars?

    I would be all for a new Beast-Era series though. All my money to Hasbro for that one.
     
  6. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I still think they should just dub BW II and Neo.
     
  7. Arbalest

    Arbalest Thrift Store Hunter

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    Beast Wars is indeed perfection as far as Transformers go so a reboot would be a horrible idea.
    Dinobot can never be done again or else he would just fail in comparison to how he was in the original. As good a reboot could be it could never top the episode Code of Hero which let's face it is the greatest episode in the history of all things Transformers. The only thing Beats Wars needs is better animation.
     
  8. Jetbolt

    Jetbolt Maximal Air Commander

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    We don't need a BW reboot, the characters were perfect and so was the story. I would think a possible new series with Maximals and Predacons would be better instead. Though with new characters, to prevent the first BW cast from suffering the fate the G1 names had, over used.
     
  9. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

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    I believe that the only correct answer is "NONE".

    But I will also accept "Blu-Ray re-release for entire series".
     
  10. Bountyan

    Bountyan Well-Known Member

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    The last thing I want in Transformers right now is more rehashing of what already happened.
     
  11. Feralstorm

    Feralstorm Good Morning, Weather Hackers! TFW2005 Supporter

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    I would add ... CGI hair.
     
  12. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    "Rebooting" Beast Wars is an entirely fruitless and nearly impossible action. "Beast Wars" is just too specific and engrossed to be sectioned off and repurpose. Any change would really stop it from being Beast Wars and make it just a Beast Wars-like Transformers series. That's like rebooting a specific version of Batman instead of just doing an all-new version. It's pointless.

    Now while Beast Wars is damn close to the perfect TF show, it could be improved. But not with a reboot. The few flaws it has are technical or other kinds of problems you don't solve by hitting the reset button. The dated (but still impressive for it's time) CGI and the "breaking in" stage the characters suffer from early on aren't things you can fix after the fact.

    To reboot Beast Wars would first require a series to reference as a bygone era, one with enough established concepts, but indescriminate enough to not seriously affect aspects of the present. G1 was an excellent "bucket" from which BW could pull individual pieces on to enhance and expand it's universe. G1's inherant overall irrelevance made it such a great diving board. It was flexible enough to bend, but it's established concepts kept it rigid enough to spring back. There's really no good "bucket' to use as a jumping point these days. No diving board. They're either too rigid that they don't flex, or too soft to bounce off of. And to create one solely to be used as a prequel to a BW reboot that shouldn't happpen is pointless.

    Agreed one hundred and ten percent.
     
  13. soundwaverulls

    soundwaverulls Taking a break

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    When I say reboot, I personally mean a show where most characters turn into beasts, perhaps organic as well. I'm against the idea of it copying Beast Wars' story. Maybe make some references but but mostly be original like Animated was to G1.
     
  14. gregles

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    I think a completely new series in which they all have beast alt modes could work with new almost photo-realistic Jurassic park or rise of the planet of the apes style C.G.I.

    I understand why the OP could want more from the original beast wars continuity as it was a great show and we are all a little attached to those characters, but trying to get more can be troublesome as if you read the idw comics it feels like they were desperately trying to get blood from a stone in finding extra stories in what was a pretty self contained and complete story. I think the sadly never done dreamwave comic would have been better and more open to new stories, it chose to do what appeared to be an alternative sequel to beast machines. If James Roberts wrote it I would definitely be up for idw doing more comics if it picked up on the dremwave idea for a story arc
     
  15. Dolza_Khyron

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    no rampage? no tigertron? no silverbolt? i'd totally pass on your idea. :lol 

    i am sorry. but everything you are changing, made beast wars fun.

    it started off as it's own little story/universe, then sort'a merged itself with g1 later on. and I like it that way.

    and while the vehicons work well in my opinion in the setting that is transformers prime, it wouldn't work well in my opinion, with beast wars.

    instead of rehashing beast wars, i suggest, just watching beast wars on netflix instead.

    i would see a beast wars live action cgi movie.
    and jurassic park wasn't near photo realistic. unless you're talking 2 or 3. i don't know about those, i haven't seen them in nearly a decade. but the first one? maybe back in the 90s, it was fantastic cgi, but today? it's quite laughable. :lol 
     
  16. NemiMonkey

    NemiMonkey Sad Derpfester Noises

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    Like others have already said there really is no need for a reboot. A different story from a different perspective maybe. There were quite a few protoforms after all. Maybe a story about that or a more "natural" ending. I mean of course one that wasn't Oh crap BW is ending WRAP IT UP GUYS. Not that I'm saying the ending was rushed or anything.

    As for your ideas, I don't think they'd work since your removing some of the characters that helped make BW what it was. Tarantulas and Inferno were their own characters, you can't simply tack on traits from Rampage. Inferno was insanely loyal to megatron. If Megs said jump into that lava he'd probably do it with a "yes my Queen". Tarantulas was a schemer. Rampage put simply was a the psychopath of BW verse. The guy was sadistic, you can't simply remove that and add it to another character who has a predefined personality.

    Well your idea for Dinobot just sounds to me like what happened in BM.
     
  17. bacon4e

    bacon4e Resident Cheesehead

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    The only changes I would make would be the the inexplicable ability for every character to get stabbed or shot straight through the chest, only to return completely unaffected two scenes later. And don't even get me started on waspinator.
     
  18. Dolza_Khyron

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    but waspinator was awesome. i'd totally keep that. after all, even if it did have that, it still had transformers dying. and it sure did have plenty of them. it just made transformers less vulnerable to many things, like gunshots. being that in this universe the SPARK is the life form, and the robot, is just a shell it uses to get around. it really makes since. after all, the spark could be transferred, or removed from the bot, thus the spark, really was the life form that the transformers were. so in other words, it makes since that even if waspinator was blown to bits, that he'd still be alive, because of his spark chamber was still intact.

    so that worked really well to me. I just wished future generations carried on that thing about the sparks too. rather then the spark in modern times being just the heart of the bot or con. especially in the movies.
     
  19. Una

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    As much as I love Beast Wars, I don't want a reboot of it.

    But I wouldn't mind them doing a story on Cybertron in the Beast Era. Maybe before BM happened.
     
  20. bacon4e

    bacon4e Resident Cheesehead

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    My biggest issue was that characters like scorponok or terrasaur could get get their heads crushed or their limbs blown off, yet they died because they tripped into a pit of lava without a hint. Don't get me wrong, waspinator was alright otherwise, but getting blown to literal pieces and magically getting back up again bugged the hell outta me