Captain Picard returns to tv...

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    With data being implied to be back, I hope that means whenever season two fixes the timeline it will turn out Data was the one who got the synth body. Then they explain they caught Picard’s syndrome in time so he didn’t need a synth body.
     
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    Has Wheaton gone on Twitter to piss and moan about this?
     
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    Give him time, he was just complaining about Shatner being mean to him the other day and got made fun of for it. He’s probably waiting for that to die down.
     
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    Was Shatner mean to him again or is he still complaining about the incident with Shatner from like 30 years ago?
     
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    The one from 30 years ago.
     
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    I probably will. I will just wait for the end of the season at this point.
     
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    I'm hoping for the enterprise-e it would not be out of place to still be around and look the same. In the first episode of season 2 a fleet of federation ships are seen with 3 of them being sovereign class with no signs of being refit. If an enterprise-f shows up I hope its a new design maybe a sovereign, galaxy class hybrid. I really don't like the sto odyssey class enterprise-f its just strange looking with that thin double neck that wraps around the body, and I'm not a fan of the original nacelle design with the bussards on the bottom
     
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    Enterprise-E with Worf as captain would make the most sense for this time. After Nemesis, Data was dead, Riker and Troi left. Worf should be next in line. He would have been Picards first officer till he got promoted to Admiral...
     
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    I want Captain Worf too but it's a question mark on whether this will happen or not because in DS9 he screwed up a mission that ended up costing him his ability to take on a leadership position in the future. They could just ignore this or throw some dialogue that waves this away but I always remember that Worf chose Jadzia over the completion of a mission and that cost him big time.
     
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    I was about to say didn't worf leave to be the starfleet ambassador to Qronos but then remembered Nemesis was set after that. So I guess worf as captain does make the most sense. I would love to see the E again, but i would have thought if they were going to bring an enterprise in, it would have been rikers ship at the end of s1.
     
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    Worf was only meant to be on the Enterprise visiting for a while during the festivities but nothing was said on screen.
    Be neat if it had Captain Laforge of the galaxy class USS Challenger as a nod to Voyager episode Timeless which had a potential reference to the Borg cube from last season.
     
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    That's what I thought too, but he was acting as if he was the main tactical officer and assigned to the enterprise so.... I don't know what was happening there with him.
     
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    It's not official canon, but the second tie-in novel "the Last Best Hope" covers this by having Picard request Worf succeed him on his way out, but Starfleet objected on grounds of Sisko's report from "Change of Heart", so part of the plot is Picard advocating on Worf's behalf to become captain of the E.
     
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    I really need to read this novel. Canon or not. Worf deserved to be captain, regardless of that incident with Jadzia. I'm sure he learned from that incident, and you can't question his service otherwise. Picard himself said "As a matter of fact, I think you are the bravest man i've ever known."
     
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    Hard disagree. Worf should have never agreed to go on that mission if he was unable to make the hard calls. There’s repercussions for actions and Worf doesn’t deserve special treatment because no one who serves deserves special treatment.

    Just have the captain of the ship fall into the warp core and Worf is then made captain since he’s the most senior officer around.
     
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    No man would have left his wife to die. It was an impossible choice. Overall, I can't see Starfleet holding it against him, considering all the other stuff they let slide :/
     
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    Yeah, the novels are not canonical, but the showrunners did reasonably try to make the setup plausible at time of writing, so if nothing drastic has changed in the writers' room, then I would anticipate Picard season 3 to bring Captain Worf to fruition. In fact, for the second Picard novel, author Dayton Ward was offered the choice of premises between Captain Riker and Commander Troi on the Titan or Captain Worf on the Enterprise before he ultimately chose to write the former.

    In the 2001-2021 novels, Worf had a long journey confronting his own self-doubts about responsibility. He was to transfer to the Titan with Riker and Troi but stayed on at Picard's request to fill the void left by Data's death, eventually accepting the XO position officially. Finally, shortly before the novel universe came to an end, Worf was offered promotion to captaincy of the Prometheus.

    It was really annoying that Nemesis offered no exposition on Worf having apparently left his ambassadorship and Wesley having apparently left being a Traveler. Judging from the rank insignia, I would interpret that Worf returned to Starfleet full-time. It's not because the writer paid attention to previous stories, but it does fit with Worf's previously-stated affinity for Starfleet.

    The 2001-2021 non-canon novels explained that Daniels, the security guy from First Contact and Insurrection, decided to retire from Starfleet upon the end of the Dominion War. He warned his successor Christine Vale that the veterans of the Enterprise-D had formed a clique of their own, har har har! Vale was on vacation when the Shinzon crisis occurred, with Worf substituting in, and after Data died, Vale became Riker's XO on the Titan.

    I would love to see a task force of Captain Worf of the Enterprise, Captain La Forge of the Challenger, Captain Crusher of the Pasteur, and Captain Kim of the Rhode Island.
     
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    If I understand it correctly then in a way the 2001-2022 novels are canon. The final entry, Coda, tells that the novels take place in an alternate reality brought into existence when the Enterprise-E returned home at the end of First Contact.

    As such, the novels tell a possible string of events post First Contact, just like ST Picard does. And STP already differs slightly from what the Kelvin movies tell us about this period (different stardate system, Romulan star exploding vs a nearby star exploding). They're all possible paths and all just as valid as the other. It's been a long time since I saw Parallels, but in my recollection the episode told it as though all realities they encountered were valid. There isn't a one true timeline, they're just different.


    The writer probably didn't know Worf had left Starfleet. They made a TNG movie and Worf was TNG character. Him wearing a red uniform and the correct rank was likely thanks to the costume department.

    What's really annoying about is that having Worf still be an ambassador would've slightly helped the movie. He was present because of the wedding and it would've formed an explanation why the Enterprise was sent to Romulus. It's isn't that Shinzon asked for the Enterprise, it was just the nearest ship, when Earth and Romulus are already pretty close. If Worf was an ambassador they could play it that it was fortunate that he was on board.
     
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    I like the theory that wesley was still being a traveller and he appeared at the wedding naked, expecting it to be a traditional betazoid wedding. He's in uniform because someone just grabbed a spare uniform to cover him up. Of course, this means you have to ignore the deleted scene where He's obviously back in starfleet.

    Worf being an ambassador and that being why the Enterprise was sent would have been a great idea. But shinzon needed picard specifically so him luring them to the neutral zone with b4 to make them the nearest ship makes the most sense from shinzon's viewpoint.

    As for ep 6, yep, another good one.
     
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    If they're going to show an Enterprise, I'm not going to lie...I hope its captain is Va'Kel Shon. Played, of course, by Jeffrey Combs. I have no idea how canon Shon is outside of STO, but he is goddamn awesome in the game.

    As for season 2, yeah...episode 6 was not good. The whole singing bit was hella forced. I had hoped they would have returned to their time by now, but it seems we're going to spend pretty much the entire season in the modern day. The repressed trauma over his mum thing is, frankly, annoying. It shits all over the established setting of the time period having her quite obviously forcibly dragged away from her son. Then again, quite a lot of Picard and Discovery shit all over the franchise. I'll stick it out to the end with the season, but season 3 is going to really have to blow me away to get me to watch.

    And dammit, I want to see the new Stargazer kicking some ass, along with my beloved Gagarin!
     
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